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  • #61
    Originally posted by cixthree View Post
    I can see it already and mark my words dude. He beats SSM "That wasn't prime Mosley" Cotto wasn't the same after the same after the Brick Layer fire and Pac was smaller floyd gets no props. We won't understand till he's gone from boxing for good.
    HOW THE HELL DID U GET ALL THAT BANK!
    That's why he waited too long. He's the one who retired for two years while others were in war. He can still fight some prime fighters like Berto, P.Williams.
    At least they're not heavily damage.

    Two years ago he thought he did enough until Manny came along and started finishing guys off better than him.
    What? Did Mayweather gave the blue brint in how to beat them? Did Mayweather soften them up? That's what Mayweather says. Perhaps he's expecting others to do the same so he can hand pick his next rival.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Unbiased View Post
      I can honestly say that I have no preference when it comes to styles of boxing. Aside from the fact that I don't like watching one-dimensional ones. (e.g. Margarito Pavlik) I love Floyd as a boxer equally as much as I dislike him as a person.

      When it comes to the size issue, its true Floyd fought bigger guys when he was younger.

      But the fact is that RIGHT NOW he is a true WW. He has grown into being a TRUE WW and that is where he belongs. As he has gotten older, his mature and natural body mass is at 147.

      Marquez is a true 130 pounder and has fought at that weight or lower until he was 35 years old! His true natural bodyweight as a fully grown and mature adult is at lightweight. For him to pack on 12 more pounds at 36 years old is unnatural.
      True he has grown into a full WW now and before he was a small WW. But you said it yourself "as of Rite Now".. No disrespect to JMM cuz I love his fite game, but that was nothing more than a tune up for what he hopes is a Pac fite, if Pac can pull it off with Cotto (which I think he will, with Cotto having to burn 2 pounds of muscle to make 145)..
      But like you say these guys are available now, they didn't want any a few years back when he called them out but now they jump out the woods like they've always wanted him. Well I just want good fites, I hope the numbers can be worked out and we get the best in with the best.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by cortdawg25 View Post
        even besides the business of the sport. I want somebody to name who he fought and who he should have fought. Cause when u look at it like that, then we can really see if he Floyd has been dodging people.

        I remember the timelines...i remember what happened. I can bring up the articles!

        So who was this best?
        This is where they get stumped. Coming up with legitimate and worthy competition for Floyd at that time.

        No names show up.

        Originally posted by big_james10 View Post
        I could make the same argument about Floyd. I was a huge fan of Whitaker and loved watching him fight and am not discounting his accomplishments. I thought he got robbed against Oscar. My question is what is your idea of tested? Does it mean being in a competitive fight? Whitaker was in plenty of those. Floyd has not, but its not because his opponents were not good. IT is because he was so much better. He has fought the best at every weight with the exception of 140 when he couldn't get a fight against Hatton, Kostya Tyszu or Cotto.
        The reason is Floyd boxes too much. But that's too easy an answer.

        He doesn't brawl like some other fighters, maybe?

        He doesn't stand still long enough to be hit clean, so he's a runner?

        It's the same argument over and over.

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