Comments Thread For: Haney, Concerned With Ramadan, At Odds With Top Rank Over Lomachenko Fight Date

[Kannabis Kid]

No not at all.

Im not treating him as anything but an undisputed champion that has earned his title the right way.

ahh somyou have a religious bias against ******s. So mow he is a fake ******. That is so ignorant.

I explained why- his promoter is setting things up to favor the challenger. I have a problem with that.

I never said he wasn't undisputed nor have I ever disputed his legitimacy of being a champion. He doesn't have a great resume yet, in the future he will but as of now he isn't some huge star Loma is much more accomplished so he's not going to just command when things are to take place.

You all seem to forget Loma was a bit busted up against Ortiz after a long lay off, meanwhile Haney was relatively clean in the one sided boxing fight that was mostly holding until the 9th round when he finally started to let his hands go and caught a few punches himself.

Never have I said anything bad about ******s stop creating another false narrative. I have plenty of friends who are actually ****** unlike Haney. I can say Inshallah and Alhamdullilah too, it doesn't mean I'm ****** now.

Cannabis Child is an outdated troll. He thinks the way be posts gives the impression of some ultra masculine chad when he comes across as an angsty teenager who very likely (regardless of actual age) still lives with one or both of his parents.

Damn I hurt you so bad you are still going on like a little whiny *****. Seems like you bitches are hurt about the truth.

[mrwake]

Bald assertion is rarely convincing. If your argument was strong enough it would stand on its merit but your continual use of pejoratives hints at some doubt within yourself.

The "argument" as you so grandiosely describe it is redundant anyway. You're making assumptions about variables you cannot quantify (i.e. profitability of a fight in March rather than May) and assuming that's even the reason for TR/ESPN's position.

I would ease off on the critical thinking talk when you probably cannot even define it.

*Bold

[YOU WILL LOSE]

recognize taqiyya when you see it.

[dan-b]

*Bold

No "bald" is the correct adjective here. It implies the person made a claim without covering it with an explanation. Bold would imply some courage was required, completely different meaning.

[TheWinners]

Why would Haney suddenly make excuses? Hes never been anything but professional.

His potential opponent and his fans have made a myriad of excuses after both of his losses.

An undisputed champion is asking for a fight with the toughest opponent as early as possible and you think its setting up an excuse?

That doesnt make sense.

Lomachenko is not the toughest fight. He was a couple years ago and that's why Lopez earned his respect for fighting and beating him. Loma is small at 135.

The toughest fight is Tank. Next Stevenson, Garcia or Lopez would be a tougher fight before he went to 140. Much bigger and harder puncher. Everyone knows Loma is faded at this point. Even still he's gotta make some lame excuse just in case it goes south.

I tell you what, name me Haneys 2 most impressive wins. And the guys that he beat, tell me who they beat. All you'll have is an older Linares and Kambosos. The best guys in the division were Haney, Garcia, Tank, Lopez, Loma and Stevenson is in there now. Hell even Pitbull. Haney didn't fight any of these guys. And out of all of them only Loma and Lopez fought. Stevenson and Tank are even p4p mentions on this site. But the guy in the rankings hasn't beat anyone known at the top. None of the guys he beat are top guys.

Keep making excuses though.

[The Big Dunn]

Lomachenko is not the toughest fight. He was a couple years ago and that's why Lopez earned his respect for fighting and beating him. Loma is small at 135.

The toughest fight is Tank. Next Stevenson, Garcia or Lopez would be a tougher fight before he went to 140. Much bigger and harder puncher. Everyone knows Loma is faded at this point. Even still he's gotta make some lame excuse just in case it goes south.

I tell you what, name me Haneys 2 most impressive wins. And the guys that he beat, tell me who they beat. All you'll have is an older Linares and Kambosos. The best guys in the division were Haney, Garcia, Tank, Lopez, Loma and Stevenson is in there now. Hell even Pitbull. Haney didn't fight any of these guys. And out of all of them only Loma and Lopez fought. Stevenson and Tank are even p4p mentions on this site. But the guy in the rankings hasn't beat anyone known at the top. None of the guys he beat are top guys.

Keep making excuses though.

Loma is #1 at LW and is considered the best opponent by the majority of posters and fans.

One glaring problem with your post- it is between the periods after Pitbull and guys.

That sentence should read - None of them were willing to fight Haney.

If you dont like Haney, no problem. To act as if he avoided the division is dishonest. Worse, you fail to point out how Haney took a crappy deal ( because he was not a big earner- the reason the division best all avoided him) to fight Kambosos twice.

Even if you despise Haney, he isnt and never was the problem. Once Loma avoided him, he even went as far as to allow TR to co promote him so he could get the fights against the top guys he wanted.

Haney has done everything the right way. No PEDs. No ducking. No dropping belts. No asking to be made emeritus/super champion to avoid a defense. No opting out of being in a mando fight. Taking a terrible deal to make the fight he wanted. Everything we expect from a champion.

Your bias is disgraceful and your anger misplaced.

[TheWinners]

Loma is #1 at LW and is considered the best opponent by the majority of posters and fans.

One glaring problem with your post- it is between the periods after Pitbull and guys.

That sentence should read - None of them were willing to fight Haney.

If you dont like Haney, no problem. To act as if he avoided the division is dishonest. Worse, you fail to point out how Haney took a crappy deal ( because he was not a big earner- the reason the division best all avoided him) to fight Kambosos twice.

Even if you despise Haney, he isnt and never was the problem. Once Loma avoided him, he even went as far as to allow TR to co promote him so he could get the fights against the top guys he wanted.

Haney has done everything the right way. No PEDs. No ducking. No dropping belts. No asking to be made emeritus/super champion to avoid a defense. No opting out of being in a mando fight. Taking a terrible deal to make the fight he wanted. Everything we expect from a champion.

Your bias is disgraceful and your anger misplaced.

Name me the best 2 guys on Haneys resume. You think I'm angry because of what i think? An opinion? Shows your level of thinking. I get it you support Haney, good for you. But his position is overrated and will be short lived the moment he faces the best.

Lopez fought Loma as a underdog and while he was atop every p4p list. He's not the same. He's also small at 135. Maybe he was slightly overrated because he was able to weight bully 126 and even 130. But he cant at 135 and he's older. So now that he's no longer at the top p4p, hes the best fight?

Rankings are political and not true representations of who would be a more suitable fight. They have Thurman 2nd in his division after taking 2 years off coming back and beating Barrios. A guy who was stopped by Tank 2 divisions down. So don't talk to me like ratings matter. Im telling you they don't because they have Haney on p4p but his best win is an unknown Kambosos and a aged Linares.

You claim everyone avoided Haney but the list is numerous of the best in the division he hasnt touched. Loma is no where near the best now. Everyone knows the young guns like Tank, Stevenson, Garcia, these are the guys people want to see Haney fight. I guess everyone ran from Haney although he hasn't stopped anyone of note. While Loma would be a nice name to add, he's not the best possible opponent so that's your own fairy tale.

[The Big Dunn]

Name me the best 2 guys on Haneys resume. You think I'm angry because of what i think? An opinion? Shows your level of thinking. I get it you support Haney, good for you. But his position is overrated and will be short lived the moment he faces the best.

Lopez fought Loma as a underdog and while he was atop every p4p list. He's not the same. He's also small at 135. Maybe he was slightly overrated because he was able to weight bully 126 and even 130. But he cant at 135 and he's older. So now that he's no longer at the top p4p, hes the best fight?

Rankings are political and not true representations of who would be a more suitable fight. They have Thurman 2nd in his division after taking 2 years off coming back and beating Barrios. A guy who was stopped by Tank 2 divisions down. So don't talk to me like ratings matter. Im telling you they don't because they have Haney on p4p but his best win is an unknown Kambosos and a aged Linares.

You claim everyone avoided Haney but the list is numerous of the best in the division he hasnt touched. Loma is no where near the best now. Everyone knows the young guns like Tank, Stevenson, Garcia, these are the guys people want to see Haney fight. I guess everyone ran from Haney although he hasn't stopped anyone of note. While Loma would be a nice name to add, he's not the best possible opponent so that's your own fairy tale.

The tone of your post was angry imo. Doesnt mean you were a blithering raving lunatic. The way the post ended also shows a bit of anger.

I made clear I have no issue with your post other than that sentence.

The “best in resume” argument you make is problematic because you hold Haney responsible for actions other took to avoid him.

As fir p4p, I agree with you in principle. I dont have him on my top 10 list.

You dont strike me as dumb or lacking understanding of the business. As such, you know they all avoided him because he isnt a big earner, is tough to beat, and wasnt aligned with TR. Once he signed with TR, he fought the best in the division twice in his hometown.

Tank yes. Loma yes. If you go back and read the threads, many posters say a Shakur v Devin fight would be boring. I dont agree. Feels like you dont either.

You are arguing the #1 ranked LW, the only LW ranked on every credible top 10 p4p list, the opponent the vast majority of posters and media members want him to fight, is not the best opponent at LW for the unified, undisputed LW champion. Your entitled to your opinion but it makes you look foolish in this instance.

The only plausible LW’s other than Loma are Tank- who just fought- or Ryan- who avoided him when he had the chance to fight him for the mando spot. Or did you forget that?

You keep mentioning Shakur even though he hasnt fought at 130 yet. Skillwise I agree. Does he deserve to jump to the front of the line?

Who would you say is a better opponent for Haney to fight that is available ?

[Larry the boss]

lol Fairy Tale religions getting in the way of real life. Yikes.

cant knock what others believe just because you dont

[brettWall]

Large amounts of food is consumed during Ramadan. The adherents will testify to this. It's not fasting, it's feasting.