Comments Thread For: Photos: Terence Crawford, David Avanesyan - Face To Face at Final Presser

[Liondw]

Ah Zab Judah, is he a promoter and/ or friend of Crawford? Interesting.

Crawford should knock out Avneysan within eight rounds I gather. If it goes longer or the distance, perhaps disappointing.

Don't even mention any superfight afterwards. Talk about that if it gets signed, too much back and forth on social media.

[MusoMeanderings]

Brain surgery probably woke Judah up about certain matters of real life he didn't care about before.

Working shifts as a nurse will do that to you.

[champion4ever]

This is an ESPN fight. It doesn’t belong on PPV.

[Idunnoshet]

But you'll be the first guy to buy Canelo-Ryder garbage, sitting in front of the TV like a little boy!

Haymon is here for boxing fans not racists like you who got bullied in high school by urban kids!

Yeah. Im with you buddy.
Anyone who criticizes Haymon in a Racist.

[factsarenice]

There’s a reason Al is a multimillionaire. His job isn’t to make you happy. His job is to make as much money as possible and as quickly as possible. If the byproduct of said mutual transaction (promoter/consumer) produces satisfaction then it is a win and long term benefit is therefore gained. Al (being the successful entrepreneur that he is) isn’t going to fork over guaranteed millions to someone who has a proven and documented history of not being able to break even on PPV sales.

Ill say it again, this is a business first and not a charity.

You realize Crawford was not getting a guaranteed minimum. Errol Spence on the other hand was getting a guarantee and if Errol fights Thurman, Keith Thurman he's getting a 10 million guaranteed.

[factsarenice]

It’s about a business and in business there’s no charity. Bud can’t break 150k ppv but expects monetary compensation equal to his contemporaries that are already proven commodities. You’d think the supposed “pfp1” as a free agent would be swooped up by ANY REPUTABLE promotional agency. Why isn’t he? Because the supposed pfp #1 can’t dry flies to horse s h I t yet expects 10 million or more per fight. In comes the fly by night promotional outfit that will have to offset its losses post fight or like most will default on said loan and lender will then have to go after collateral and stated assets.

There’s a reason no reputable promoter is going after Crawford. They listened to Bob who lost money on him and want nothing to do with someone that refuses to see what their actual market worth is.

You start off with "It's Business and charity" and then go right off a cliff with unsupported nonsense and that's you opinion, and I get that, but opinions are like ass holes, everyone has one and most stink.

In context:
Crawford signed a promotional deal offered by the most established, successful promoter in boxing. Crawford signed because "it was a good business decision." Bob wrote up the contract because it would make TR hundreds of millions, just as he did with Floyd, Oscar and others...again "good business for TR".

In 20019 the global pandemic decimates sporting venues. For the first time in 50 years Top Rank can't sell tickets, guaranteed minimums turn into "bad business for TR, good business for any fighter with contractual minimum". Arums was unable to deliver the Spence fight so Crawford leaves "good business" and attempts to negotiate a mega fight with no guaranteed purse. The negotiations drag on for months and Crawford with almost a year of inactivity he is offered 10 million for a 1 fight deal, "GREAT BUSINESS".

As for your swoop up promoter comment, that's pure fantasy. Crawford like Canelo is a free agent by choice, unbound by networks and politics he fights one off deals and refuses to sign long term with ANYONE. Top rank isn't happy and DAZN is looses fighters daliy for the same reasons. BTW, no promoter swooping to sign Spence, Porter, Thurman or Tank they're free agents too.

In conclusion.......If you really want to talk about business, the only bad business choicen Crawford made was accepting NO MINIMUM for the Spence fight. That is not just my opinion but every top WW's at PBC, none fight without a guaranteed minimum...but as I said, that's just our opinion.

Again, everyone is entitled to their own stinky opinion but not their own facts.

[Carpe Diem]

That was one of the most ratchet fight press conferences that I’ve ever seen. Even these exhibitions press conferences look more professional.

[Boxingfanatic75]

You realize Crawford was not getting a guaranteed minimum. Errol Spence on the other hand was getting a guarantee and if Errol fights Thurman, Keith Thurman he's getting a 10 million guaranteed.

That’s not what was shared on Social media and if what Spence wasn’t true about the contract Bud would have called it out but he DIDNT. Spence stated that NEITHER was offered a guarantee. That’s the difference, Spence and Haymon know Spence’s economic value because he has sold out Dallas stadium more than once and trumps any PPV numbers Bud has. Spence is confident not getting a guarantee because he knows he can sell.

We know and Crawford knows Crawford can’t and has never sold. His next PPV is projected to be a dud of epic proportions 65k buys.

it’s pathetic

[Boxingfanatic75]

You start off with "It's Business and charity" and then go right off a cliff with unsupported nonsense and that's you opinion, and I get that, but opinions are like ass holes, everyone has one and most stink.

In context:
Crawford signed a promotional deal offered by the most established, successful promoter in boxing. Crawford signed because "it was a good business decision." Bob wrote up the contract because it would make TR hundreds of millions, just as he did with Floyd, Oscar and others...again "good business for TR".

In 20019 the global pandemic decimates sporting venues. For the first time in 50 years Top Rank can't sell tickets, guaranteed minimums turn into "bad business for TR, good business for any fighter with contractual minimum". Arums was unable to deliver the Spence fight so Crawford leaves "good business" and attempts to negotiate a mega fight with no guaranteed purse. The negotiations drag on for months and Crawford with almost a year of inactivity he is offered 10 million for a 1 fight deal, "GREAT BUSINESS".

As for your swoop up promoter comment, that's pure fantasy. Crawford like Canelo is a free agent by choice, unbound by networks and politics he fights one off deals and refuses to sign long term with ANYONE. Top rank isn't happy and DAZN is looses fighters daliy for the same reasons. BTW, no promoter swooping to sign Spence, Porter, Thurman or Tank they're free agents too.

In conclusion.......If you really want to talk about business, the only bad business choicen Crawford made was accepting NO MINIMUM for the Spence fight. That is not just my opinion but every top WW's at PBC, none fight without a guaranteed minimum...but as I said, that's just our opinion.

Again, everyone is entitled to their own stinky opinion but not their own facts.

Unsupported nonsense? Name one area that was BUSINESS unsupported. Flash quiz, Has BUD EVER sold beyond 150k ppv? Answer, no Simple economics, his tenured and anemic PPV numbers DO NOT support anywhere close to what he is seeking. Not by a long shot. Even though, yes I am a business major it doesn’t take one to figure that out…period…PPV is on a decline and I will concede that Covid was a contributing factor. HOWEVER, Spence and his promotional team had no issue making money for both the promoter and the fighter….none. Unlike Bob who lost his ass repeatedly to a now established premadonna who has extremely over valued his monetary worth.

Pertaining to the no guarantee and swooping in. On both accounts you are dead wrong and couldn’t be any more incorrect. Spence stated the contract provided to Bud stipulated that he too GOT NO GUARANTEE. He called this out on Social Media and NOT ONCE did Bud ever correct him and state otherwise. See, Spence knows he sells and is a proven commodity. Bud knows his fights tank PPV and wants a guarantee as a free agent that NO ONE reputable is willling to offer him. Bud has been used to receiving premiere treatment and pay within a contract and he no longer can get that given his PPV history.

Swooping in? Canelo a free agent has been hounded by his former promotional team GBP to take fights with them under free agency and DAZN is bending over backwards to scoop him him!

Tank, Spence, Thurman, have had 0 issue getting scooped up and landing good fights. The odd man out is and has been Bud because every smart reputable business entity GBP, DAZN, Haymon knows the same thing….Bud overdemands FAR beyond his net value and his fights are financially net losses.

Makes sense or further explanation needed?