Why did Chad Dawson fought Andre Ward at 168?

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  • Thuglife Nelo
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    #11
    Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

    Yeah Chad was making 168 very early in his career. It’s completely different doing it after you’ve grown, developed muscle mass etc.

    Going back down in weight is generally never a good idea in boxing. 9 times out of 10 it seems to end disastrously.
    Don’t exaggerate. That’s usually reserved for guys jumping multiple weights.

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    • Roadblock
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      #12
      Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

      Yeah Chad was making 168 very early in his career. It’s completely different doing it after you’ve grown, developed muscle mass etc.

      Going back down in weight is generally never a good idea in boxing. 9 times out of 10 it seems to end disastrously.
      I don't mean way earlier, I mean at the time you are about to look at fighting at that weight.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Thuglife Nelo

        Chad Dawson said he could make the weight just like Bivol. But I realize boxing is all racially motivated which is why many hate on the Mexican Canelo cause of his white skin complexion. Notice fans says Dawson dared to be great, even with a Hopkins win as an accolade, no catchweight narrative for Ward vs Dawson. Yet Canelo isn’t dared to be great having fought Bivol directly at 175. How does that work? Bivol was already clamoring to fight Smith at 168 before Canelo beat Smith. Bivol still insisted to want 168 after Canelo beat Plant. These were actual Boxingscene articles that I bumped recently. Yet fans don’t like to instigate it because it would exempt Canelo and they prefer any other narratives but that.

        Bhop made concessions for DLH. Ward didn’t dare to be great by wanting the man who beat Hopkins. 8lbs is a lot and fans don’t want to acknowledge it, though some do as posters in the thread say Dawson was drained.

        it just scares Canelo haters the thought of Bivol fighting Canelo at 168. Even Bivol recently is reneging the 168 narrative because he got the Canelo payday. Fans don’t want to accept that Bivol was willing to hinder his performance like Dawson for the Canelo payday. Canelo gets no credit for going to 175. Had Canelo had management like Floyd they would’ve used Bivols call for a 168 fight because “he said it.”
        Stop eating paint chips!!! Every article isn't about Canelo literally not 1 person gets off topic besides you.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Thuglife Nelo

          Chad Dawson said he could make the weight just like Bivol. But I realize boxing is all racially motivated which is why many hate on the Mexican Canelo cause of his white skin complexion. Notice fans says Dawson dared to be great, even with a Hopkins win as an accolade, no catchweight narrative for Ward vs Dawson. Yet Canelo isn’t dared to be great having fought Bivol directly at 175. How does that work? Bivol was already clamoring to fight Smith at 168 before Canelo beat Smith. Bivol still insisted to want 168 after Canelo beat Plant. These were actual Boxingscene articles that I bumped recently. Yet fans don’t like to instigate it because it would exempt Canelo and they prefer any other narratives but that.

          Bhop made concessions for DLH. Ward didn’t dare to be great by wanting the man who beat Hopkins. 8lbs is a lot and fans don’t want to acknowledge it, though some do as posters in the thread say Dawson was drained.

          it just scares Canelo haters the thought of Bivol fighting Canelo at 168. Even Bivol recently is reneging the 168 narrative because he got the Canelo payday. Fans don’t want to accept that Bivol was willing to hinder his performance like Dawson for the Canelo payday. Canelo gets no credit for going to 175. Had Canelo had management like Floyd they would’ve used Bivols call for a 168 fight because “he said it.”
          I am a Canelo fan by the way. Hopefully he fights Bivol at 168. I doubt Bivol's Camp is going to accept it. They are now the A side.

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          • lizard_man
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            #15
            Originally posted by Roadblock
            Because he thought he could make 168, the trouble is and its a trap is they only think they can they don't actually go down to the weight to see. Oscar did the same thing with Manny and it was a massive fck up just as Chads was, if they did a quick 4-week trial and actually hit the scales at the weight they would know they don't feel right, LaLonde was another.
            Why does bivol and the whole boxing world feel the can go to 168 and whoop Canelo easily then? And why isn't Canelo jumping at the chance.

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              #16
              It was a mistake to fight at 168 pounds, and I think that is what factored in the loss.

              Dawson would of for sure fought Ward to a closer fight at 175 pounds 'I don't think he would of been stopped'.

              I think he just got carried away, after one of his fights 'I believe it was during a post fight interview were he called out Ward at 168 pounds etc'.


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                #17
                Dawson called out Ward at 168 in his post fight interview vs Hopkins. Ward accepted the call out at that weight.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by -Kev-
                  Dawson called out Ward at 168 in his post fight interview vs Hopkins. Ward accepted the call out at that weight.
                  Stevenson called out Ward when he blasted out Dawson. Ward never wanted that work

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by lizard_man

                    Why does bivol and the whole boxing world feel the can go to 168 and whoop Canelo easily then? And why isn't Canelo jumping at the chance.
                    Canelo is in a good seat because he can fight Bivol at 168 for the Undisputed defense. And you’re right, Bivol and Hearn have been saying it in the media. What’s even better is that by Bivol acknowledging 168 for some time means it shouldn’t be a problem for a catchweight. I said this on the board for a couple years, ever since Bivol said he wanted Callum Smith at 168. If Bivol really wanted Canelo, how could’ve also forfeited his belt at a catchweight but never offered it. By Bivol going to 168 means he would be able to retain his LHW belt, and that’s why Bivol was calling out 168 Champions. As a Canelo fan, we saw the Mexican try and failed at the 175 WBA. A rematch from 168-175 is great because the fans will get a fight anyways. This is what most boxing fans don’t get.

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                      #20
                      Dawson was a good boxer who had a lot of momentum at the time after beating Hopkins. I know he was 47 at the time, but no one beat Hopkins as easily as Dawson did up to that point.

                      Not sure if it was the weight cut or the loss, or both, but Dawson never recovered from that blunder.

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