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  • Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

    You assume, you wasn't there, the fight didn't happen with TC walking away, I assume it was because he didn't get the amount of money he wanted for that fight, Manny done the same thing with Mayweather when Floyd offered him double his biggest purse he refused, in the end he made much more, this could be Crawfords way of thinking we don't know.
    I don’t have assumptions. I use Buds own words. I use Spence’s words. I use the fighters words. I can’t lie or assume on fighters. I formed my opinion based on Bud talking to Haymon. I believe that Haymon wanted Spence to fight Thurman before Bud. That’s all. All that other stuff that they accused Bud of doing didn’t make sense.

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    • Originally posted by Raggamuffin View Post
      I don’t have assumptions. I use Buds own words. I use Spence’s words. I use the fighters words. I can’t lie or assume on fighters. I formed my opinion based on Bud talking to Haymon. I believe that Haymon wanted Spence to fight Thurman before Bud. That’s all. All that other stuff that they accused Bud of doing didn’t make sense.
      You state that you formed your opinion based on Bud talking to Haymon.

      When did you see and hear Bud talking to Haymon, that's my point.

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      • Originally posted by BlackRobb View Post

        Crawford also stopped Darren Horn, Benavidez and Porter because their punch resistance had eroded, right? It couldn't possibly be because Bud is one of the sport's hardest punchers and best finishers, right?

        That's an interesting little world you live in. Tell me...are there plumes of purple smoke or haze where you are?
        You think boiling down to a weight that is unnatural for your size isn't going to weaken you and corrode your punch resistance? I'm sorry, what? You can't be this dim. Please say you're not and that you're just a troll.

        What do you think happened when Dawson went in against Ward when he drained himself? Did you delude yourself that Ward was punching harder, or was Dawson's punch resistance gone? Dawson was so weakened in training camp that he was getting knocked out there too.

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        • Originally posted by BlackRobb View Post

          I've watched the fight several times already. I initially scored it a draw. Upon watching again, I realized I shaded a round for Shawn he didn't deserve, so my card was 7-5.
          I'll keep this short and sweet...

          Give me just 4 rounds Shawn Porter won against Kell Brook? I don't want your hilarious score card. I just want 4 of the 12 you gave to Shawn?

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          • Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

            You state that you formed your opinion based on Bud talking to Haymon.

            When did you see and hear Bud talking to Haymon, that's my point.
            Why do I have to see them talk?

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            • Originally posted by Raggamuffin View Post
              Why do I have to see them talk?
              You didn't hear them talk either, so in other words you're buying 100% into hearsay, which amounts to assuming, so we're back to where we started, assumptions.

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              • Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

                You didn't hear them talk either, so in other words you're buying 100% into hearsay, which amounts to assuming, so we're back to where we started, assumptions.
                How is it hearsay if it’s coming from the horses mouth? The only thing that I see here is that you believe Spence’s tweets and don’t believe Buds live, lol…

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                • Originally posted by Raggamuffin View Post
                  How is it hearsay if it’s coming from the horses mouth? The only thing that I see here is that you believe Spence’s tweets and don’t believe Buds live, lol…
                  The horses mouth can lie unless you were there when the conversation was had you have no clue whether it's true or a lie, it's a case of you believing what you want to believe, seeing as you have no clue one way or the other what makes Bud the truth-teller and Spence the liar, I will tell you, its who you like and who you don't like, that is behind what you believe.

                  Im only running with the few hard facts, Bud walked out and took another fight, from his own mouth he said he wanted transparency all the while he was double-dealing, he never said he told them about the other fight and they said they had no idea he was doing it, I don't care who is saying what, Im looking at the no doubt pieces only.

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                  • Originally posted by Sid-Knee

                    Which rounds did Crawford actually win against Brook then? You're even basically admitting to him losing the completed rounds as you say "He needs time to download". No, he's far too cautious, that's his problem. It's always his problem.

                    Gamboa was a Featherweight. He was far too small for Crawford. It didn't stop him lighting Crawford up for the first 4-5 rounds and genuinely wobbling him though.

                    Postal was a good fighter and a good win. It was a stinking performance though. The crowd booed for a reason. He's just far too cautious.

                    Porter was in control against a negative Crawford and was practically running away with the fight. It wasn't until he was told he was losing by his corner at the end of round 9 that he sprung into action. He can't read a fight very well if he thought he was winning.

                    As i say, you destroyed your own argument with the comment about their performances against Porter.
                    Bud was ahead of Porter 5-4 at the time Kenny threw in the towel, possibly 6-3. Brook landed a few lead hand shots against Bud, but he barely won a round. Perhaps you need to watch that fight again. Round 1 to Brook. Round 2 was very close. Crawford took Round 3 and closed the show I'm the fourth.

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                    • Originally posted by BlackRobb View Post

                      Bud was ahead of Porter 5-4 at the time Kenny threw in the towel, possibly 6-3. Brook landed a few lead hand shots against Bud, but he barely won a round. Perhaps you need to watch that fight again. Round 1 to Brook. Round 2 was very close. Crawford took Round 3 and closed the show I'm the fourth.
                      Well at least you answered the Crawford rounds against Brook. I'll get back to you on round 3 where we'll break the round down after i've rewatched it.

                      Where is the 4 rounds Porter won against Brook?

                      Porter was clearly winning against Crawford. There is no argument to be made on Crawford being ahead. He didn't throw much of anything, let alone land scoring punches. Porter was landing plenty though. Crawford's corner agreed with the vast majority who were scoring it to Porter.

                      We haven't even got to Porter beating Spence and the rounds you think Spence won in that fight. Spence looked even worse than Crawford. He was ineffective for most of the fight.

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