Comments Thread For: Robert Garcia: "Boots Ennis Is Going To Have Trouble With Vergil Ortiz"

[Uncle SneakyTouch]

I think the fight will be closer than what people think, Ive seen Boots get hit by shots that he doesn't want to get hit by from the top guys, Vergil is no bum its an interesting fight Id love to see happen.

Boots has yet to fight a top guy so idk what you're talking about

[Erik P]

Real talk, you can't negate Ennis boxing resume because he hasn't fought any top level fighters. At this point, the fighters he's faced are applauded for their courage in fighting Boots. Something the top level guys (Crawford, Spence, Thurman) DO NOT want to do. Virgil Ortiz with his resume, would be a good fight to watch. Ortiz will lose, but at least that would be a notable win Boots will get credit for.

[buddyr]

both guys have been pros going on a decade and neither have fought another top 10 fighter yet. That is f*kin ridiculous

[Oldskoolg]

What in thee fuq do you dudes on this site be talking about?? Boots isn't signed to Pbc and all his fights have been on Showtime. He only fought once this year because the Spence-Crawford debacle that screwed the entire 2022 WW schedule up. But don't worry I think he's coming back in January on Tank's undercarriage. There you go champ.

It all goes back to a but I g hatred of Al Haymon, that’s all it is, even though boots isn’t a Haymon fighter. They know showtime is Haymon country and therein lies the illogical hatred. By their logic somehow dazn is producing the fights that captivate the boxing world and attract casual sports fans and set the sporting world alight. We all know that’s not happening but if boots left and went to dazn suddenly there would be no criticism about him not getting fights

[Rebelrbg]

I'm sick of the Boots Ennis hype train if you ask me. Not to mention this sport in general. How can a guy with 30 fights in his record with no notable win and now became inactive gets so much hype? Can't he even fight Kavaliauskas, who is available and his last fight was on PBC? If "Boots" is that good why is he playing waiting game like the others? Is he afraid to lose or something?

Quite simply, Ennis is avoided by the lesser and greater fighters. The fighters that are rising don't want to get soundly beaten or KOed , derailing them off of their climbing the rankings. The top fighters don't want to lose their positions to championship fights by taking a loss to the hot up and coming contender. He struggles to find opponents because he's shown himself to be a dangerous man.

[Rebelrbg]

You've clearly never seen Ortiz fight if you think that all he has is "power". The guy has one of,if not the best, powerful jabs in all of boxing,guy even dropped Kava with it. Throws it up top and to the body equally well. Has a very good inside game and is a very good body puncher. He broke down both Kava and McKinson with it. He's relentless,applies constant pressure and has a tremendous gas tank. He isn't as "cute" in there as Ennis but it doesn't mean what he does have isn't as effective. The guy has never been forced to fight off the back foot which is what you're going to have to do to beat him. If not,that pressure and power WILL break you down.If Kava favors him over Bud what does that tell you? That he's more than "just power"........

It's as 50/50 a fight as one gets imo.

Not even close to 50/50. Ortiz is a basic, come forward, aggressive, bomb thrower. He does have a nice jab and chin, but he uses that chin too often. McKinson was tapping him up and frustrating him to the point of his corner begging Ortiz to go to the body to slow him down. If McKinson, whose a Euro-boxer with only two KOs, had any power, he would have gotten Virgil out of there in the first half of the fight. But, Virgil eventually got him out in the late rounds because he just walked through his punches and wore him down. If he does that with Ennis, Ortiz might never fight again. Virgil has no defense or desire to defend shots, its all just walk his man down and aggressive offense. Boots is a boxer, he has great movement, angles, counters, fights orthodox and southpaw, uses great body to head transitions, long jab, explosive uppercuts, and power in both hands. He also sets traps, and that's off the back foot or front foot, and he's only getting better. His defense does need some work, as he tends to get a little lax when he's controlling the offense, but not like Ortiz; Virgil's defense stinks. I don't think Ortiz would last 8 rounds with Ennis, Boots is just a much better boxer with a bigger arsenal to choose from. But, I would love to see it.

[Sctrojan]

Not even close to 50/50. Ortiz is a basic, come forward, aggressive, bomb thrower. He does have a nice jab and chin, but he uses that chin too often. McKinson was tapping him up and frustrating him to the point of his corner begging Ortiz to go to the body to slow him down. If McKinson, whose a Euro-boxer with only two KOs, had any power, he would have gotten Virgil out of there in the first half of the fight. But, Virgil eventually got him out in the late rounds because he just walked through his punches and wore him down. If he does that with Ennis, Ortiz might never fight again. Virgil has no defense or desire to defend shots, its all just walk his man down and aggressive offense. Boots is a boxer, he has great movement, angles, counters, fights orthodox and southpaw, uses great body to head transitions, long jab, explosive uppercuts, and power in both hands. He also sets traps, and that's off the back foot or front foot, and he's only getting better. His defense does need some work, as he tends to get a little lax when he's controlling the offense, but not like Ortiz; Virgil's defense stinks. I don't think Ortiz would last 8 rounds with Ennis, Boots is just a much better boxer with a bigger arsenal to choose from. But, I would love to see it.

He is not just this defenless,mindless brawler like a Provo. Did you you even bother to watch his fight vs Kava? After getting countered and hurt in the second round he became aware of the traps and counters Kava,who has very good timimg,was trying to get him to fall for and adjusted. He started working off his jab and never committed for than a quick one two as to not allow Kava the opportunity to time and counter. It wasnt until he knew the body work had broke Kava down enough around rd 7, that he could commit to his offense a little more which he did and it was a wrap.

McKinson,"European" or not,is a very awkward crafty fighter who has the style to go rds with anyone. It was his first fight after a long layoff and being hospitalized with rombo so take that fight/results for what it's worth. McKinson is the type of fighter with that approach where you need to "take some to land some" because if not he's awkward/crafty enough to take you the distance in an ugly affair. Two different approaches to two different fighters so I'm not sure where you or anyone else who's seen him fight can suggest "no defense" doe....

Ennis looks the goods but so have countless other boxers when coming up facing less than stellar competition. Lipinets and Dulorme are D level fighters that had no business fighting at 147 and Clayton came to lie down for the payday. We still don't know how Boots will handle or react when he meets his "Maidana" now do we? As short as his flights were with Lipinets and Dulorme,they both landed and countered Boots fairly easily and flush. What happens when a big,powerful full fletched welterweight like Ortiz does the same? Ennis looks the goods but being feed undersized guys who are just going to roll over is doing him a disservice once he steps up. Like another poster mentioned,let's assess and not assume, Ennisca little more once he faces some adversity.

[jmrf4435]

More twitter talk

More bs

More delays

Who os virgil ortiz??

Who is boots?

No one even knows these guys.

Boxing doing a horrible job with young stars

[jmrf4435]

both guys have been pros going on a decade and neither have fought another top 10 fighter yet. That is f*kin ridiculous

Its ****innng sad

And ufc is way better at this point

[Rebelrbg]

He is not just this defenless,mindless brawler like a Provo. Did you you even bother to watch his fight vs Kava? After getting countered and hurt in the second round he became aware of the traps and counters Kava,who has very good timimg,was trying to get him to fall for and adjusted. He started working off his jab and never committed for than a quick one two as to not allow Kava the opportunity to time and counter. It wasnt until he knew the body work had broke Kava down enough around rd 7, that he could commit to his offense a little more which he did and it was a wrap.

McKinson,"European" or not,is a very awkward crafty fighter who has the style to go rds with anyone. It was his first fight after a long layoff and being hospitalized with rombo so take that fight/results for what it's worth. McKinson is the type of fighter with that approach where you need to "take some to land some" because if not he's awkward/crafty enough to take you the distance in an ugly affair. Two different approaches to two different fighters so I'm not sure where you or anyone else who's seen him fight can suggest "no defense" doe....

Ennis looks the goods but so have countless other boxers when coming up facing less than stellar competition. Lipinets and Dulorme are D level fighters that had no business fighting at 147 and Clayton came to lie down for the payday. We still don't know how Boots will handle or react when he meets his "Maidana" now do we? As short as his flights were with Lipinets and Dulorme,they both landed and countered Boots fairly easily and flush. What happens when a big,powerful full fletched welterweight like Ortiz does the same? Ennis looks the goods but being feed undersized guys who are just going to roll over is doing him a disservice once he steps up. Like another poster mentioned,let's assess and not assume, Ennisca little more once he faces some adversity.

I never said anything about him being a brawler, I said that he is a basic, come forward, aggressive, bomb thrower, which is why Mckinson was tapping him up and Kavaliauskas was finding moments of success. He doesn't have any defense, its horrible. Besides the high guard, which he constantly drops, he basically uses his offense as his defense. He takes punches in order to land his own. I've watched most of his fights and haven't seen any difference in his defense, he takes punches and keeps coming. That won't work against guys that have the same will but more in their toolbox than him. He's very good for the level he's facing right now, but if he doesn't add more in the way of boxing skills, and greatly improve his defense, Ennis will give him a good naptime. Boots is just the better all around boxer, but I would definitely love to see it.