Comments Thread For: Bivol Is a Beterbiev Away: Weekend Afterthoughts

[CasperUK]

Would love to see it in Montreal, definitely the top fight town in Canada.

It's a huge money fight if they can do it in Abu Dhabi.

The Arabs love the Russian ******s out there and Beterbiev would fit in nicely.

[ChamberOfTruth]

Did anyone else see Bivol “switch to southpaw” as is stated in the article?

[Rebelrbg]

and Canelo is the rightful champion at LHW. it's not about the belt. He never lost the belt before Bivol.


Bivol beat him.


realistically Bivol has just as many belts as Beter

Nah, you're really reaching now. Cinnabon dropped his belt because he didn't want to be mandated to defend it against Beterbiev or someone that he didn't want to fight. He wanted to choose like the entitled, handheld brat he is. So no, realistically, he was not the champion because he couldn't have it his way. Instead, under the disguise of legacy, once Benavidez lost his belt on the scales, 168 was ripe for the picking, with a couple Euro-boxers and soft hands Plant holding the belts on his 11 month rush to undisputed before Benavidez get a fight with one of them to regain a belt. After all, if they're guaranteed a fight with Cinnabon and the biggest purse they've ever seen, why would they fight Benavidez? Afterward, again with the legacy bullshxt, instead of fighting Benavidez, Andrade, or Charlo, he thought he saw another soft LHW champion because of the underwhelming look of Bivol's last three defenses and opponents, which all went the distance and even Hearn stating that he didn't look special. We all know how that turned out, so yes, Bivol was given the opportunity to show his talent to the world by totally putting the beats on their favorite Ginger brat, and out classing GBP's hype job Mexican, but he still has to fight the other champion for the rest of the belts.

[tomhawq]

Foreigners are taking over US boxing.

[HeadShots]

Nah, you're really reaching now. Cinnabon dropped his belt because he didn't want to be mandated to defend it against Beterbiev or someone that he didn't want to fight. He wanted to choose like the entitled, handheld brat he is. So no, realistically, he was not the champion because he couldn't have it his way. Instead, under the disguise of legacy, once Benavidez lost his belt on the scales, 168 was ripe for the picking, with a couple Euro-boxers and soft hands Plant holding the belts on his 11 month rush to undisputed before Benavidez get a fight with one of them to regain a belt. After all, if they're guaranteed a fight with Cinnabon and the biggest purse they've ever seen, why would they fight Benavidez? Afterward, again with the legacy bullshxt, instead of fighting Benavidez, Andrade, or Charlo, he thought he saw another soft LHW champion because of the underwhelming look of Bivol's last three defenses and opponents, which all went the distance and even Hearn stating that he didn't look special. We all know how that turned out, so yes, Bivol was given the opportunity to show his talent to the world by totally putting the beats on their favorite Ginger brat, and out classing GBP's hype job Mexican, but he still has to fight the other champion for the rest of the belts.

that's why that belt means nothing. Canelo never lost it. Period. He was the champ.


NAME > BELT


Canelo > JSJ



End of discussion.

[Rebelrbg]

that's why that belt means nothing. Canelo never lost it. Period. He was the champ.


NAME > BELT


Canelo > JSJ



End of discussion.

If you say so, but I'm sure many would disagree with your opinion and the theory you hold in regards to this situation.

[HeadShots]

If you say so, but I'm sure many would disagree with your opinion and the theory you hold in regards to this situation.

history only remember names.



Hagler won his MW belt from Alan Minter(who?)

Hagler defeated beltless Duran(from lower weight class)

Hagler defeated beltless Hearns(from lower weight class)



that is what he is remembered for. Period.

[Rebelrbg]

history only remember names.



Hagler won his MW belt from Alan Minter(who?)

Hagler defeated beltless Duran(from lower weight class)

Hagler defeated beltless Hearns(from lower weight class)



that is what he is remembered for. Period.

History remembers Minter because that's who Hagler had to face for undisputed, also because Hagler stated that it was one of his toughest opponents. In stating the names of Hearns and Duran, history remembers them because they were already champions, remember the belts, in different divisions, and the excitement was caused by great champions facing the undisputed in another weight class. So, if Duran and Hearns had not previously held championship belts, their names would not have carried so much weight and the demand for the fight wouldn't have been there. I disagree with your theoretical philosophy because belts create the names, especially before social media was popular. Every boxer that became a top name either won a belt, or had a classic fight at the attempt to win one. History is kind to champions and those that fought valiantly in the quest of a championship.

[HeadShots]

History remembers Minter because that's who Hagler had to face for undisputed, also because Hagler stated that it was one of his toughest opponents. In stating the names of Hearns and Duran, history remembers them because they were already champions, remember the belts, in different divisions, and the excitement was caused by great champions facing the undisputed in another weight class. So, if Duran and Hearns had not previously held championship belts, their names would not have carried so much weight and the demand for the fight wouldn't have been there. I disagree with your theoretical philosophy because belts create the names, especially before social media was popular. Every boxer that became a top name either won a belt, or had a classic fight at the attempt to win one. History is kind to champions and those that fought valiantly in the quest of a championship.

*** that noise


Duran > minter

Hearns > minter



period

[Rebelrbg]

*** that noise


Duran > minter

Hearns > minter



period

That wasn't the conversation, but yeah, I 'm done here.