Who is more technically sound. Usyk or Bivol?

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  • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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    Usyk by a mile. That’s no disrespect to Bivol who’s a great fighter in his own right but Usyk has far more dimensions. Usyk has every punch in the book and uses all sorts of angles, Bivol largely just throws straight shots.

    If I was to show tape to a kid learning to box, I’d show them Bivol cause it’s a much more teachable style. Bivol does everything right. Keeps his hands high, is always in the middle of his stance, always balanced when throwing his punches, always on the balls of his feet and so on. He does the basics exceptionally well.

    Usyk however has a style that requires a higher level of skill. The way Usyk positions his feet, moves around the target, uses unusual angles is very tough to learn. Usyk has truly mastered it with years of coaching. It’s also a style you need certain athletic attributes to be able to utilise successfully.

    Both tremendous fighters but Usyk is definitely the more skilled of the two.

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      #22
      I would say Bivol

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        #23
        Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
        Usyk by a mile. That’s no disrespect to Bivol who’s a great fighter in his own right but Usyk has far more dimensions. Usyk has every punch in the book and uses all sorts of angles, Bivol largely just throws straight shots.

        If I was to show tape to a kid learning to box, I’d show them Bivol cause it’s a much more teachable style. Bivol does everything right. Keeps his hands high, is always in the middle of his stance, always balanced when throwing his punches, always on the balls of his feet and so on. He does the basics exceptionally well.

        Usyk however has a style that requires a higher level of skill. The way Usyk positions his feet, moves around the target, uses unusual angles is very tough to learn. Usyk has truly mastered it with years of coaching. It’s also a style you need certain athletic attributes to be able to utilise successfully.

        Both tremendous fighters but Usyk is definitely the more skilled of the two.



        yet he gets hit more than bivol and lands a lower % of shots than Bivol.




        Chisora was teeing off on Usyk lol

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          #24
          Originally posted by HeadShots




          yet he gets hit more than bivol and lands a lower % of shots than Bivol.




          Chisora was teeing off on Usyk lol
          Well that's because usyk is at heavyweight now. If bivol moves up to cruiser he will get hit more as well.

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            #25
            Originally posted by HeadShots


            you're performing mental gymnastics.


            Joshua got knocked out by Andy Ruiz. He's not elite. He went life and death with Parker(who is a journeyman level HW).


            Zurdo was 44-0. Hart fights were close but they weren't robberies. Every fighter has that on their record. Some argue Chisora beat Usyk. Zurdo still had some good names.
            I'm not though. Andy Ruiz was Joshua's worst night and he won the rematch, and Ruiz, also, is miles better than Hart. Zurdo's resume is shocking and he has not even proved himself to be a good fighter, never mind a great one, and after last night's completely unambitious and boring performance from him, as far as I'm concerned, he can have a rubber match with the practically unknown, Hart, and retire. Nobody would even notice his absence from boxing if he did. Typical case of overrating every other division and underrating HW.

            Zurdo has beaten nobody near Joseph Parker's level. Cash in

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              #26
              Originally posted by -TAKEOVER-

              Well that's because usyk is at heavyweight now. If bivol moves up to cruiser he will get hit more as well.


              Bivol fought a cruiser in Ramirez. he only landed at 12%.


              Zurdo is p4p better than Chisora.

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                #27
                Originally posted by MoneyKasha
                Who would you consider more technical out of the two. This is hard, both are supremely skilled
                - - U most technically dumb fan on BS.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by HeadShots




                  yet he gets hit more than bivol and lands a lower % of shots than Bivol.




                  Chisora was teeing off on Usyk lol
                  Those % stats mean nothing. It’s relative to opposition and several other factors. It’s the type of thing idiots cite who don’t know what they’re watching. Same clowns who bring up compubox when scoring fights. Irrelevant nonsense. Nerds pressing buttons every time they think a punch was landed, who’ve probably never thrown a punch in their life.

                  He beat Chisora comfortably. This whole Usyk struggled with Chisora narrative is also nonsense.

                  How do you think Bivol would fare boxing guys weighing in at nearly 40 lbs heavier? It takes a lot of skill to be able to overcome significant physical disadvantages.

                  Both are great fighters but Usyk is the more skilled.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Cash in

                    I'm not though. Andy Ruiz was Joshua's worst night and he won the rematch, and Ruiz, also, is miles better than Hart. Zurdo's resume is shocking and he has not even proved himself to be a good fighter, never mind a great one, and after last night's completely unambitious and boring performance from him, as far as I'm concerned, he can have a rubber match with the practically unknown, Hart, and retire. Nobody would even notice his absence from boxing if he did. Typical case of overrating every other division and underrating HW.

                    Zurdo has beaten nobody near Joseph Parker's level. Cash in
                    Punch stats doe…

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
                      Usyk by a mile. That’s no disrespect to Bivol who’s a great fighter in his own right but Usyk has far more dimensions. Usyk has every punch in the book and uses all sorts of angles, Bivol largely just throws straight shots.

                      If I was to show tape to a kid learning to box, I’d show them Bivol cause it’s a much more teachable style. Bivol does everything right. Keeps his hands high, is always in the middle of his stance, always balanced when throwing his punches, always on the balls of his feet and so on. He does the basics exceptionally well.

                      Usyk however has a style that requires a higher level of skill. The way Usyk positions his feet, moves around the target, uses unusual angles is very tough to learn. Usyk has truly mastered it with years of coaching. It’s also a style you need certain athletic attributes to be able to utilise successfully.

                      Both tremendous fighters but Usyk is definitely the more skilled of the two.
                      Agreed 100%.

                      I was surprised that most people said Bivol in here.

                      To me it's Usyk by far.

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