Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Haney-Lomachenko, Spence-Crawford, Jake Paul, More

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The Daily Bread Mailbag returns with Stephen "Breadman" Edwards tackling topics such as the saga between Terence Crawford and Errol Spence, Vasiliy Lomachenko vs. Devin Haney, the career of Roy Jones Jr, Youtber turned boxer Jake Paul, and more.
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[TonyRespectful]

Most intimidating of all time?Easy.Sonny Liston.He scared George Foreman! And it shows you how great Ali was in that he used his fear of Sonny to his own advantage.

[BomaE]

Breadman mentioned the big names at PBC and then included Adrien Brooner

[Smash]

chris from france, bread sure gets a some odd names asking questions lol

[ShoulderRoll]

Bread went through Crawford's resume and basically talked as good as possible about every single opponent, even Julius Indongo.

If you want to make a guy look good then giving his foes every possible benefit of the doubt is the way to do it. Just keep that same energy and apply it to everybody else, though.

[PredatorStyle]

Good mailbag. Mostly good questions with some nonsense.

[Boxing Logic]

I don't understand what happened to Lomachenko. When he was fighting Linares, Pedraza, and Luke Campbell, he had the highest compubox stats not just for offense and power punching, but also for defense. He was elite coming forward, and he was elite going backward. He was elite on offense, and he was elite on defense. But then his critics started saying "he's only a pressure fighter, he has bad defense," even though there was zero evidence of that except for his 2nd pro fight vs Salido with a significantly enlarged body strikezone because of the low blows, which ruins a fighter's defensive guard the same way that happened to Kovalev vs Ward, because now you have twice as much area to cover with your gloves and they're not big enough to cover that much at once the way they are big enough to cover much of the legal strike zone. But then suddenly, Loma started fighting to the level that people were talking about him. His offense is still great, except for the lower activity and connect % vs Ortiz, but vs Nakatani and Commey it was still great, but his defense and counter punching ability off the back foot haven't been there as much.

I mean, I guess they were vs Nakatani and Commey. The Teofimo fight and the Ortiz fights were just weird. Those fights make me really unsure if Loma will do the job against Haney. I haven't been impressed with Haney. He wasn't on my radar at all until the JoJo Diaz fight and even though JoJo is pretty good, he's nowhere near Loma at 135, but I thought it was a draw. Based on that and other deficiencies I see in Haney's game, I never thought of him as a threat to Loma. I thought he was going to be fighting off TV his whole career as more of a club fighter or contender. But now I'm thinking, he's American and he's young, and we know Boxing is a business. And we see from Jake Paul that the business most about who they think they can turn into a bigger ticket seller.

But even that, I always thought Haney was not popular at all. Maybe he has some twitter followers like Rigondeaux did, but he never seemed to have a fan base. Most the good American boxers in the past had big fan bases and ticket sales and viewership and he doesn't seem to. But he is younger than Loma so maybe they think he can at least make them more money than Loma long term. Loma might have a bigger fan base right now in the US, and obviously way more worldwide, but maybe they think with time on Haney's side, he can at least get more US fans by the time he's Loma's age, and generate more money.

There is never really any way to predict anything in this business. Who saw Ward beating Kovalev once let alone twice? Loma's performances against Ortiz and Teofimo has created a lot of uncertainty.

[Boxing Logic]

Bread went through Crawford's resume and basically talked as good as possible about every single opponent, even Julius Indongo.

If you want to make a guy look good then giving his foes every possible benefit of the doubt is the way to do it. Just keep that same energy and apply it to everybody else, though.

Bread man? More like Spin man.

[The D3vil]

I don't understand what happened to Lomachenko. When he was fighting Linares, Pedraza, and Luke Campbell, he had the highest compubox stats not just for offense and power punching, but also for defense. He was elite coming forward, and he was elite going backward. He was elite on offense, and he was elite on defense. But then his critics started saying "he's only a pressure fighter, he has bad defense," even though there was zero evidence of that except for his 2nd pro fight vs Salido with a significantly enlarged body strikezone because of the low blows, which ruins a fighter's defensive guard the same way that happened to Kovalev vs Ward, because now you have twice as much area to cover with your gloves and they're not big enough to cover that much at once the way they are big enough to cover much of the legal strike zone. But then suddenly, Loma started fighting to the level that people were talking about him. His offense is still great, except for the lower activity and connect % vs Ortiz, but vs Nakatani and Commey it was still great, but his defense and counter punching ability off the back foot haven't been there as much.

I mean, I guess they were vs Nakatani and Commey. The Teofimo fight and the Ortiz fights were just weird. Those fights make me really unsure if Loma will do the job against Haney. I haven't been impressed with Haney. He wasn't on my radar at all until the JoJo Diaz fight and even though JoJo is pretty good, he's nowhere near Loma at 135, but I thought it was a draw. Based on that and other deficiencies I see in Haney's game, I never thought of him as a threat to Loma. I thought he was going to be fighting off TV his whole career as more of a club fighter or contender. But now I'm thinking, he's American and he's young, and we know Boxing is a business. And we see from Jake Paul that the business most about who they think they can turn into a bigger ticket seller.

But even that, I always thought Haney was not popular at all. Maybe he has some twitter followers like Rigondeaux did, but he never seemed to have a fan base. Most the good American boxers in the past had big fan bases and ticket sales and viewership and he doesn't seem to. But he is younger than Loma so maybe they think he can at least make them more money than Loma long term. Loma might have a bigger fan base right now in the US, and obviously way more worldwide, but maybe they think with time on Haney's side, he can at least get more US fans by the time he's Loma's age, and generate more money.

There is never really any way to predict anything in this business. Who saw Ward beating Kovalev once let alone twice? Loma's performances against Ortiz and Teofimo has created a lot of uncertainty.

He got old

He's a 35 year old Lightweight who started out at 126

[The D3vil]

Bread went through Crawford's resume and basically talked as good as possible about every single opponent, even Julius Indongo.

If you want to make a guy look good then giving his foes every possible benefit of the doubt is the way to do it. Just keep that same energy and apply it to everybody else, though.

Crawford's resume is a lot better than you guys give him credit for.

Tank Davis had an immense amount of trouble with an old Gamboa who had blown out his achilles 8 years after Crawford stopped the prime P4P level version of him.

Even Postol gave Jose Ramirez a hell of a fight 4 years after Crawford beat him.

Crawford beats everybody he fights better & more decisively than everybody else who fights them most of the time, including Shawn Porter & Kell Brook