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  • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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    #11
    Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
    Crawford insists he had two financial backers willing to pay both of them a guaranteed $25 million each. Not sure what else could hold up the fight besides the “back end” talk. If this is true, it goes back to what I said in another thread, they need to be realistic about what they are worth.

    By Keith Idec - Terence Crawford revealed Tuesday night that representatives from two unnamed hedge funds offered to pay him and Errol Spence Jr. guaranteed purses of $25 million apiece during prolonged negotiations with Premier Boxing Champions founder Al Haymon.
    How often do these backers get proven as illegitimate though. I think Team Spence were right to dismiss them.

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      #12
      Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

      How often do these backers get proven as illegitimate though. I think Team Spence were right to dismiss them.
      If the money was being offered up front, it was worth exploring. Haymon wants total control and probably wasn’t getting a big enough piece of the pie for his greedy pockets.

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        #13
        Originally posted by GhostofDempsey

        If the money was being offered up front, it was worth exploring. Haymon wants total control and probably wasn’t getting a big enough piece of the pie for his greedy pockets.
        I have serious doubts about these supposed backers. Spence said he asked Crawford where the
        money was coming from and he couldn’t tell him. That’s smells dodgy as f***.

        Haymon and Team Spence are definitely at fault for trying to lowball Crawford IMO but they were right to dismiss these anonymous backers.

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          #14
          Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

          1 dollar.

          Don’t be ridiculous. Crawford would have made good money fighting Spence, multimillions no doubt. Was it less than he deserved? Probably, but it still would have been a big payday.

          Crawford would have obviously been told his forecasted pay based on performance based criteria. I’d love to know what it was but obviously that kind of stuff will remain disclosed.

          Tbh man, I just think you’re using this as a vehicle to push your agenda against PBC/Haymon. I think Al is definitely at fault in some respect but the failed negotiations don’t solely fall on him. The structure of the deal was definitely dodgy too but I have no doubt Crawford would have still earned good money.

          I’m a massive Crawford fan but he’s definitely at fault too. He’s the guy that withdrew from negotiations as well to sign with Triller 2.0 or whatever they’re called to fight Avanesyan. He’s just wasting the limited prime he has left with meaningless fights like that.

          I wish Crawford would have just bet on himself man, take the smaller slice of the pie, beat Spence and then you’re the guy with the leverage, whether that be for a rematch, a Charlo fight, a Thurman fight etc etc. I’m confident he beats Spence too, that’s the most frustrating part. Crawford is the guy losing out on the most by far here and it’s somewhat his own fault.
          He was going to bet on himself man,he agreed to a "0" gaurantee and only 35% of the split! Never has there been a fight of this magnitude(relatively) structured this way. Hell even Haney recieved a $10mil gaurantee to fight freakin Kambo.Bud asked for one simple request which was to have access to the events books and rightfully so because it effects his bottom line. Haymon says no,why,who the hell knows so Bud takes the bird in hand. How much more would you have bent over at that point? Bud isn't in this game for charity or is obligated to because of PBC's inability to offer a better deal.

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            #15
            Originally posted by JQside
            The Porter father and son team used to get that brunt of dislike from uncle Al Haymon. He didn't like them. The Porters wanted better paycheck when Shawn was holding a title. I don't think uncle Al gave in. I think the PBC chief doesn't like the Crawford/Bomac team.
            They like guys they can easily manipulate and persuade. Sad to say but its much easier fooling some poor Mexican with a lil charisma and words like "National Pride" and "Legacy." You aren't foolin a well off brotha like that, $ is attached to those words.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Sctrojan

              He was going to bet on himself man,he agreed to a "0" gaurantee and only 35% of the split! Never has there been a fight of this magnitude(relatively) structured this way. Hell even Haney recieved a $10mil gaurantee to fight freakin Kambo.Bud asked for one simple request which was to have access to the events books and rightfully so because it effects his bottom line. Haymon says no,why,who the hell knows so Bud takes the bird in hand. How much more would you have next over at that point? Bud isn't in this game for charity or is obligated to because of PBC's inability to offer a better deal.
              Where did you get the 35% from? Do you mean 35% of the PPV split? Honestly that’s not that bad of a deal, I think that translates into around $15m if not more.

              He hasn’t bet on himself. He’s fighting Avanesyan on an app instead of Spence in a mega fight. That’s not betting on yourself.

              I’m a massive Crawford fan but he made the wrong choice here IMO. He doesn’t have the time to waste either which makes all the more frustrating.

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                #17
                When has PBC made a 50-50 fight vs someone not PBC? Two top lvl, prime guys, without inactivity, age, recently ko’d, dropping weight etc etc.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by SplitSecond
                  When has PBC made a 50-50 fight vs someone not PBC? Two top lvl, prime guys, without inactivity, age, recently ko’d, dropping weight etc etc.
                  Canelo-Plant? Wilder-Fury?

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

                    Canelo-Plant? Wilder-Fury?
                    Gtfo.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by SplitSecond
                      Gtfo.
                      Fury and Canelo weren’t in their prime?

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