Haney would have big problems with Ortiz

[War Room]

I think that Ortiz kid is pretty good and would give Haney big big problems.

[al-Xander]

I have said similar thing already.

No credit to Ortiz at all? I'd like to think Ortiz would be another step up fight for Haney. Would be a 50/50 fight.

[dan_cov]

This is a common theme with Lomachenkos opponents.

He regularly looks ordinary and rather than admitting they overrated him its nothing but excuses for him and claims of his opponents would give Tank/Haney/Garcia etc fits and they are underrated etc then they go out there and get starched.
But if Tank, Haney, Garcia etc struggled vs such mediocre opposition at all let alone on a regular basis we'd never hear the end of it and how they was apparently exposed etc

He suddenly didn't look so hot when he stopped fighting small, static opposition that just plodded forward and come to a stand still and let him create angles.
Soon as he started fighting bigger guys with a little savvy and athleticism suddenly he didn't look so hot. TR matchmaking at its finest.

[The Big Dunn]

This is a common theme with Lomachenkos opponents.

He regularly looks ordinary and rather than admitting they overrated him its nothing but excuses for him and claims of his opponents would give Tank/Haney/Garcia etc fits and they are underrated etc then they go out there and get starched.
But if Tank, Haney, Garcia etc struggled vs such mediocre opposition at all let alone on a regular basis we'd never hear the end of it and how they was apparently exposed etc

He suddenly didn't look so hot when he stopped fighting small, static opposition that just plodded forward and come to a stand still and let him create angles.
Soon as he started fighting bigger guys with a little savvy and athleticism suddenly he didn't look so hot. TR matchmaking at its finest.

Damn dan_cov, this is gonna piss some people off.

[al-Xander]

This is a common theme with Lomachenkos opponents.

He regularly looks ordinary and rather than admitting they overrated him its nothing but excuses for him and claims of his opponents would give Tank/Haney/Garcia etc fits and they are underrated etc then they go out there and get starched.
But if Tank, Haney, Garcia etc struggled vs such mediocre opposition at all let alone on a regular basis we'd never hear the end of it and how they was apparently exposed etc

He suddenly didn't look so hot when he stopped fighting small, static opposition that just plodded forward and come to a stand still and let him create angles.
Soon as he started fighting bigger guys with a little savvy and athleticism suddenly he didn't look so hot. TR matchmaking at its finest.

Regular theme from predictable Loma detractors. They want to have it both ways. On one side they say Loma is overrated as hell, yet they expect huge things from the superman. How can that even make sense? You start by seeing him as ordinary, then you expect huge things from an ordinary guy? There's no possibility at all that his opponent is not exactly a walk in the park on a nice summer's day? None at all?

[dan_cov]

Its because of the hype. They don't buy into it but they want to believe.
When fans start hearing a certain fighter is P4P number 1 and such they expect them or should expect them to beat the likes of Linares, Luke Campbell, Ortiz, Pedraza comfortably if not in great fashion not looking so and so against them all.

At 130 I feel is where he belongs, at 135 I feel he is quite ordinary and not really looked like a top p4p fighter at all at the weight. I wouldn't favour him over any of the young bucks.
A few yrs back he might have had a distinct skill advantage over most but I just feel it'd go out of the window and someone like Tank or Garcia can absorb everything Loma would throw their way far better than vice versa and that was then nevermind now. They would hurt him bad and I think someone like Haney, it'd be sad viewing. It'd almost be like Holmes beating upon Ali. For me I don't think a 35yr old lightweight turns back the clock or looks sharper than vs Ortiz, Haney would make him look and feel even older and more worn.

[-MEGA-]

Ortiz VS Kambosos. Make it happen

[al-Xander]

Ortiz VS Kambosos. Make it happen

Ortiz would blast Kambosos like a ragdoll. Beating Kamby and Diaz is nothing special.

[-MEGA-]

Ortiz would blast Kambosos like a ragdoll. Beating Kamby and Diaz is nothing special.

I still want to see it. Ortiz looked pretty good in there. A Kambosos fight would be good for him.

[War Room]

I have said similar thing already.

He's impressive no matter how you cut it. There are a lot of guys ouot there nobody knows about that are greatly skilled. I believe Ortiz is one of them.