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  • #31
    Originally posted by Hooded Terror View Post

    Crawford should be at the tail-end of his prime. Sitting 12 months between matches these past few years does nothing for "legacy" or for his bank account, or keeping him sharp, to say nothing of public perception. The negotiations started in earnest, what, 5 months ago? If anything, Crawford had been calling for the Spence match dating back to 2020, if not earlier. Spence is no coward and does deserve the A-side, but that stated, if Crawford agreed to everything money, etc, but one detail was the sticking point (transparency), then it was prudent to work on a contingency with another contender in order to stay in keeping with his stated agenda to be active no later than December. IF Spence and Company want the match then they need to rethink the stated sticking point. Nothing wrong with activity for either man. If this match-up turns into Bowe/Lewis then so be it. Neither Crawford or Spence are cowards or "unconcerned" about key points such as activity, business, legacy, monies.

    As for other mountains to be climbed, good on either for looking to climb them if they can't stop negotiations from eating up their inherent limited shelf life.
    It just seems that back in the day guys made these fights and now they don't get made. Its sad. But I hesitate to blame the fighters...Someone advises them and tries to steer them a certain way.
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    • #32
      Jermell is a legit true champ at 154. He is no hype job, he is a great boxer.

      Crawford would be just too small.

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      • #33
        Been saying it. Jermell KOs Crawford.
        Rebelrbg Rebelrbg likes this.

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        • #34
          As WBO champion Crawford can petition WBO for a mandatory shot at 154.

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          • #35
            One of my favorite quotes of the year was from a Boxingscene article about Crawford:

            "I'm f------ up [Jermell] Charlo," he said. "Put that in there. After I beat Spence, I'm moving up and I'm f------ up Charlo. End quote."



            https://www.boxingscene.com/terence-...charlo--165949

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            • #36
              I don't think Jermell is all that. He's undisputed, but what does it really mean, in this case? Since 2015, he's fought Vanes Martirosyan, Joachim Alcine, John Jackson, Charles Hatley, Erickson Lubin, Austin Trout, Tony Harrison 2x's, Jorge Cota, Jeison Rosario, & and Brian Castano.2x's. The best fighter on this list by far is Tony Harrison, who handed Charlo his only loss. Castano probably won their 1st fight. At a minimum, It's definitely debatable. So who is Charlo really undisputed over, when he hasn't really fought anybody? Furthermore, he keeps Joan Guzman on board, as if he's learning Guzman's defensive ability, when he's really not. He's nothing close to Guzman in skill or style, so that's a waste of time. He'd be better off with just Derek James. Castano hit him plenty in both fights, and Charlo weathered the storm but it shows he's very hittable. I believe Crawford could beat all the opponents i mentioned above including Tony Harrison. No disrespect to Harrison, he's good, but he's not his grandfather. Its not like he's Henry Hank. So i feel Bud can beat Charlo's ass with no real problem, because he's a much better technician and he hits just as hard but is way smarter and sharper than Charlo. Thats just my humble opinion

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Rebelrbg View Post

                The difference is Charlo is an extremely talented boxer that just so happens to have incredible power as well. Crawford's and Jermell's skillset level is very close, if not even, but the power possessed in their punch, and their size is nowhere close. When have you seen Charlo on shaky legs like Bud against Kavaliauskas, or really rocked like Crawford against the much smaller Gamboa? Bud doesn't have great defensive skills, but he tries to respond better than his opponents offense. He gets hit often, but normally puts himself in position for a hard response. If he gets hit by Jermell and tries to respond, he's going to sleep.
                Your entitled to your weak a(Ss) opinion 2!

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by archiemoore1 View Post
                  I don't think Jermell is all that. He's undisputed, but what does it really mean, in this case? Since 2015, he's fought Vanes Martirosyan, Joachim Alcine, John Jackson, Charles Hatley, Erickson Lubin, Austin Trout, Tony Harrison 2x's, Jorge Cota, Jeison Rosario, & and Brian Castano.2x's. The best fighter on this list by far is Tony Harrison, who handed Charlo his only loss. Castano probably won their 1st fight. At a minimum, It's definitely debatable. So who is Charlo really undisputed over, when he hasn't really fought anybody? Furthermore, he keeps Joan Guzman on board, as if he's learning Guzman's defensive ability, when he's really not. He's nothing close to Guzman in skill or style, so that's a waste of time. He'd be better off with just Derek James. Castano hit him plenty in both fights, and Charlo weathered the storm but it shows he's very hittable. I believe Crawford could beat all the opponents i mentioned above including Tony Harrison. No disrespect to Harrison, he's good, but he's not his grandfather. Its not like he's Henry Hank. So i feel Bud can beat Charlo's ass with no real problem, because he's a much better technician and he hits just as hard but is way smarter and sharper than Charlo. Thats just my humble opinion
                  Crawford bears Charlo. Too much speed, sharpness, athletic ability. Charlo gets hit alot and hurt with something he doesnt see.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by jackblack008 View Post
                    Crawford would smoke Charlo.
                    Crawford to small fir charlo

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Fangedgrowl View Post

                      Crawford bears Charlo. Too much speed, sharpness, athletic ability. Charlo gets hit alot and hurt with something he doesnt see.
                      Crawford not fight no tough pbc guy he gone duck like they all do

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