Comments Thread For: Photos: Jake Paul Drops, Decisions Anderson Silva in Tough Test

[BKM-]

It ends on the ground because they can't end the fight with their firsts. Boxers can do that.

I'd like to see some examples of MMA fighters doing anything other than punching in a street fight.

'boxing is useless in a street fight'. Fcking LOL. You clearly never were been in a street fight.

The best HW boxer in the world, Tyson Fury, would demolish the best HW MMA fighter, Ngannou, in a street fight.

So yes, the HW champion in boxing is the baddest man on the planet.

Renzo Gracie just this month was caught on video taking some young punk down and toying with him. There's tons of videos of the Gracies, who are very one-dimensional MMA fighters mostly using grappling, taking down untrained or single martial arts trained people and destroying them.

You are still in the denial stage because you can't get yourself to admit that boxing is the most limited and ineffective of all the legit full contact combat sports. They can't defend low kicks, they can't fight in a thai clinch, they literally are trained to give up underhooks so they are HELPING grapplers take them down, they can't defend against slams or throws, and they are a fish out of water once it hits the ground.

Tyson Fury is your counter example? The man who is literally on film being grapplef'cked by a MW?

I'm really sorry that I have to bring the bad news to you, but boxers are just punchers who can only compete inside their safe spaces with special rules that protect them. There are college wrestlers who would pick up the baddest boxer you can find and slam them on the concrete ground and kill them instantly. They lied to you your whole life.

You have an out-dated perspective based on denial and propaganda. I love the SPORT of boxing. But I'm also realistic. If I got myself in a street fight the last thing I would want to be is a pure boxer. That's like trying to get your college degree by only going to 1 class when you've tons of classes to master. Get with the times.

[BKM-]

You say that MMA is a form of a real fight. And I say that boxing is a form of a real fight, and so far that's the only form of fight in which Paul and Silva have met, and Silva not only lost, but he was knocked down, so take it for what it is worth. And I stand by my statement, "until the street fight happens, we don't know who would win." Boxing Paul has won. MMA Silva would most likely win. Street fight we don't know who would win; however, if you need to shore up your feelings about MMA and Silva, then believe what you want and sleep tight tonight.

This is always priceless too. Boxing fans don't seem to realize that the less rules there are, the worse it gets for the one who only knows how to punch. Going from MMA to street fight doesn't make things better for the boxer, it makes it much worse. Even a simple double leg TD on concrete is an instant fight ending move.

[Szef]

Renzo Gracie just this month was caught on video taking some young punk down and toying with him. There's tons of videos of the Gracies, who are very one-dimensional MMA fighters mostly using grappling, taking down untrained or single martial arts trained people and destroying them.

You are still in the denial stage because you can't get yourself to admit that boxing is the most limited and ineffective of all the legit full contact combat sports. They can't defend low kicks, they can't fight in a thai clinch, they literally are trained to give up underhooks so they are HELPING grapplers take them down, they can't defend against slams or throws, and they are a fish out of water once it hits the ground.

Tyson Fury is your counter example? The man who is literally on film being grapplef'cked by a MW?

I'm really sorry that I have to bring the bad news to you, but boxers are just punchers who can only compete inside their safe spaces with special rules that protect them. There are college wrestlers who would pick up the baddest boxer you can find and slam them on the concrete ground and kill them instantly. They lied to you your whole life.

You have an out-dated perspective based on denial and propaganda. I love the SPORT of boxing. But I'm also realistic. If I got myself in a street fight the last thing I would want to be is a pure boxer. That's like trying to get your college degree by only going to 1 class when you've tons of classes to master. Get with the times.

That's your example?

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I just watched that vid. Gracie is rolling on the ground with some guy who is fully conscious, not hurt and holding his own.

Show me a video of a MMA fighter using effectively one of their techniques and defeating their opponent.

Fury was out grappled in a grappling sparring because he was in a sparring match vs a grappler.

If you think Fury, the guy who has been street fighting since he was a child, loses to that guy, or any other MMA fighter in a street fight, then I have a bridge to sell you.

I'm not in denial of anything. I'm fully aware that MMA fighters have more techniques to use. I know they do.

What you are in denial of, is that despite all that, MMA fighters resort to punching when ish hits the fan because that's what most humans do. You can't fool your instincts in a situation like this, when you have 0.5 seconds to react.

Basically, what I'm talking about is real life situations, what you are talking about is some hypothetical, what if, scenarios.

I'll be waiting for the videos of MMA effectively using their acquired techniques in street fights.

Meanwhile:

https://middleeasy.com/street-fights...-ufc-fighters/

Spoiler alert: the two most used words in that article are 'punch' and 'combo'.

[Gideon lock]

Quite a strange and sickening headline to read to be fair.

[TMLT87]

That's your example?

https://******************/E9YY9sIY2CU?*************

I just watched that vid. Gracie is rolling on the ground with some guy who is fully conscious, not hurt and holding his own.

Show me a video of a MMA fighter using effectively one of their techniques and defeating their opponent.

Fury was out grappled in a grappling sparring because he was in a sparring match vs a grappler.

If you think Fury, the guy who has been street fighting since he was a child, loses to that guy, or any other MMA fighter in a street fight, then I have a bridge to sell you.

I'm not in denial of anything. I'm fully aware that MMA fighters have more techniques to use. I know they do.

What you are in denial of, is that despite all that, MMA fighters resort to punching when ish hits the fan because that's what most humans do. You can't fool your instincts in a situation like this, when you have 0.5 seconds to react.

Basically, what I'm talking about is real life situations, what you are talking about is some hypothetical, what if, scenarios.

I'll be waiting for the videos of MMA effectively using their acquired techniques in street fights.

Meanwhile:

https://middleeasy.com/street-fights...-ufc-fighters/

Spoiler alert: the two most used words in that article are 'punch' and 'combo'.

Again, why the **** would an MMA fighter use grappling or kicks on some random bum on the street who they could stop just with punches? I dont know how you're not getting this? are most people on the street boxers who have better hands than the MMA fighters? no, so why would anything but punches be needed to stop them? its not about instincts its about choosing to do it. Grappling on the street is not preferable because it fully commits you to one opponent, meaning you're completely open to some random person running up to you and stomping on your head while you're on the ground. Doesnt mean it doesnt work in a 1v1 situation.

As for the instincts thing, again, THEY TRAIN TAKEDOWNS HOURS AND HOURS A DAY and when they train it as part of MMA that includes training how to time it when punches are coming etc. If you drill that thousands of times, its going to be second nature. Like I said, they're choosing not to do it in street fights because its unnecessary and for the most part not preferable.

Fury was taken down by a guy who fought at 170/185lbs, whos base is in striking and whos biggest weakness is widely known to be grappling. Could Fury beat him in a street fight? because of the size difference and Till being a poor grappler? yeah probably. But you said he could beat ****ing NGANNOU in a street fight which short of some wildly unpredictable **** happening is just preposterous. The only HW I could see Fury having a good chance against in that situation is Derrick Lewis because hes so one dimensional and lazy that he probably would just throw punches. Other than that even the vast majority of 205'ers and probably even some of the bigger guys and/or better grapplers at 185 would do it too.

Fury isnt even the best HW fighter in Manchester ffs.

[Damn Wicked]

And I'm just pointing out to you that Anderson Silva would beat Jake Paul in a real fight, not a boxing match. Thanks for confirming my point.

So what? Pac-Man would beat Mayweather in a real street fight and Mayorga, Mosley , Margarito, Delahoya, Maidana and many, many others would knock Mayweather out in street fight. What the hell difference does that make when we’re discussing boxing. I’m sure many regular citizens could beat the **** out of certain professional fighters but that is a moot point.