Comments Thread For: Photos: Jake Paul Drops, Decisions Anderson Silva in Tough Test

[Chollo Vista]

You've proven time and time again you're incapable of reading Christ almighty, I've never once "come say it to my face" I said you wouldn't say it to my face, you understand the difference there right? child.

Apparently the nuances of language if you could even say that constitutes nuance is lost on you, you absolutely retárded fúck.

Prove your theory then

[Boro]

Yeah ok Paul Wilkenson

I'd slap the schit out of you and take your b1tch too

you wouldn't slap the shít out of anyone and you can have my non-existent bítch, the fact you tried to cyberstalk someone who has no social media presence beyond a youtube account and linkedin is beyond weird...

[BKM-]

Funny because from what I've seen on the net, in all the street fights pro MMA fighters were involved in, none of them used grappling or jiu-jitsu or whatever else they use. They all punched their opponents.

Hell, even when two MMA fighters fought in a street fight, Lee Murray and Tito Ortiz, they both tried to knock each other with fists, and fists only. The street fight ended with Murray KOing Ortiz with a 5 punch combo.

This is why I always laugh when all these MMA dorks try to explain to me how MMA fighters have 'more tools' or whatever.

OK, let's say they do. But they don't use those tools because when shyt hits the fan and you're in a street fight, which usually happens suddenly and you don't have the time to think, your instincts kick in and you try to finish/defend yourself from your opponent the same way every human instinctively does. With your hands.

It often starts with the fists and ends up on the ground grappling. You can nitpick all you want but MMA fighters certainly use their kicks and grappling in street fights if it's 1 on 1. Problem is it's often not 1 on 1 but that's not what was discussed in this thread. The Gracies have a huge archive of street fights where they win fights with basic BJJ.

In a "real fight", nothing is more useful than MMA and nothing more useless than boxing which is too limited. The more rules you take out, the more it favors MMA. The dirtier it gets, again the more it favors MMA. MMA simply means mixed martial arts, meaning a guy is prepared to fight in any way he decides is best. Legs kicks destroy boxers, knees in the thai clinch do, greco roman wrestling, slams, throws, chokes, limb subs you name it.

Boxers are just punchers. This fact has been a huge culture shock for them for a long time now. They really used to think boxers were the toughest fighters in the world. "The baddest man on the planet". Gone are those fantastical days.

[Chollo Vista]

you wouldn't slap the shít out of anyone and you can have my non-existent bítch, the fact you tried to cyberstalk someone who has no social media presence beyond a youtube account and linkedin is beyond weird...

Oh so you don't have a girl? Just like I said, it's because you're a funny looking b1tch

[Boro]

Prove your theory then

I don't need to prove anything, I wasn't calling people out of their name for differing opinions, I wasn't claiming I meet other forum users up and I didn't switch the onus to the other person after making said claims, you did.

And yet when I've given you the address of the gym and my name and days I'm actively there, yet you want me to come to you... then you laughably implied "You lack the balls and money for a plane ticket to prove your own theory".

But it's safe to say "theory proven".

[Rapscallion]

A real fight is a fight where combatants are able to use knees, elbows, kicks, fight on the ground, use submissions, etc

MMA is a form of a real fight. A street fight is sheer brutality which is the purest form of a real fight. Once you introduce weapons and eye gauges, groin strikes, etc. You have crossed from a fair street fight to fighting to the death

Either way, a boxing match is not a real fight when considering these definitions

Again, Jake Paul can beat Silva in a boxing match, not a real fight

I stand on that

You say that MMA is a form of a real fight. And I say that boxing is a form of a real fight, and so far that's the only form of fight in which Paul and Silva have met, and Silva not only lost, but he was knocked down, so take it for what it is worth. And I stand by my statement, "until the street fight happens, we don't know who would win." Boxing Paul has won. MMA Silva would most likely win. Street fight we don't know who would win; however, if you need to shore up your feelings about MMA and Silva, then believe what you want and sleep tight tonight.

[Szef]

It often starts with the fists and ends up on the ground grappling. You can nitpick all you want but MMA fighters certainly use their kicks and grappling in street fights if it's 1 on 1. Problem is it's often not 1 on 1 but that's not what was discussed in this thread. The Gracies have a huge archive of street fights where they win fights with basic BJJ.

In a "real fight", nothing is more useful than MMA and nothing more useless than boxing which is too limited. The more rules you take out, the more it favors MMA. The dirtier it gets, again the more it favors MMA. MMA simply means mixed martial arts, meaning a guy is prepared to fight in any way he decides is best. Legs kicks destroy boxers, knees in the thai clinch do, greco roman wrestling, slams, throws, chokes, limb subs you name it.

Boxers are just punchers. This fact has been a huge culture shock for them for a long time now. They really used to think boxers were the toughest fighters in the world. "The baddest man on the planet". Gone are those fantastical days.

It ends on the ground because they can't end the fight with their firsts. Boxers can do that.

I'd like to see some examples of MMA fighters doing anything other than punching in a street fight.

'boxing is useless in a street fight'. Fcking LOL. You clearly never were been in a street fight.

The best HW boxer in the world, Tyson Fury, would demolish the best HW MMA fighter, Ngannou, in a street fight.

So yes, the HW champion in boxing is the baddest man on the planet.

[TMLT87]

Funny because from what I've seen on the net, in all the street fights pro MMA fighters were involved in, none of them used grappling or jiu-jitsu or whatever else they use. They all punched their opponents.

Hell, even when two MMA fighters fought in a street fight, Lee Murray and Tito Ortiz, they both tried to knock each other with fists, and fists only. The street fight ended with Murray KOing Ortiz with a 5 punch combo.

Why would an MMA fighter bother to use grappling or kicks if they could stop most people they encounter on the streets with just punches? the tools you use depend on the opponent.

As for the Murray/Tito thing, assuming they werent all drunk, Tito swung on Lee because he was ****y and thought he could hang in the striking department. Hes not the sharpest knife in the drawer but i'd assume if he was standing across from a guy he knew to be an actual elite striker (and sober) he wouldnt have done that. Tito was pretty archaic and one dimensional by modern MMA standards anyway, especially striking wise.

OK, let's say they do. But they don't use those tools because when shyt hits the fan and you're in a street fight, which usually happens suddenly and you don't have the time to think, your instincts kick in and you try to finish/defend yourself from your opponent the same way every human instinctively does. With your hands.

If you drill takedowns hours and hours a day its going to become muscle memory just like punches do.

So yes, the HW champion in boxing is the baddest man on the planet.

The "baddest man on the planet" cant be somebody that would get stopped in the first round by C level MMA fighters and kickboxers. Fury is on video getting taken down by a guy with terrible grappling who fights at 185lbs for ****s sake.

[TMLT87]

In a "real fight", nothing is more useful than MMA and nothing more useless than boxing which is too limited. The more rules you take out, the more it favors MMA. The dirtier it gets, again the more it favors MMA. MMA simply means mixed martial arts, meaning a guy is prepared to fight in any way he decides is best. Legs kicks destroy boxers, knees in the thai clinch do, greco roman wrestling, slams, throws, chokes, limb subs you name it.

Boxers are just punchers. This fact has been a huge culture shock for them for a long time now. They really used to think boxers were the toughest fighters in the world. "The baddest man on the planet". Gone are those fantastical days.

Boxing is the best thing for most street situations really, its high percentage and low risk/commitment and allows you to get away quickly, most of the time its all you're going to need. Most people are not trained fighters and even if they were they're probably not going to know you could box beforehand so will just trade punches with you anyway.

HOWEVER, yes, if you only have boxing skills and get into a 1v1 unarmed fight with an MMA fighter of comparable age/size/ability who actually knows you're a boxer, you're probably going to lose.

Its crazy how naive a lot of boxing fans are about this, and about the technical aspects of fighting outside of boxing, which is a very limited field really. The archetypal modern day MMA skillset evolved from pressure testing pretty much every style of unarmed combat against each other repeatedly in an environment with virtually no rules, its literally molded around how to deal with different stylistic match ups. But theres still some boxing fans out there with the mentality of Art Jimmerson circa 1993, its crazy.

[BKM-]

HOWEVER, yes, if you only have boxing skills and get into a 1v1 unarmed fight with an MMA fighter of comparable age/size/ability who actually knows you're a boxer, you're probably going to lose.

The dummy above is still lying to himself though, he still claims a boxer would beat an MMA fighter in a street fight. I actually feel sorry for people like this.