B-Side: Why Derek 'WAR' Chisora Has Completely EXPOSED Terence 'No Smoke' Crawford For Years

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  • Combat Talk Radio
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    B-Side: Why Derek 'WAR' Chisora Has Completely EXPOSED Terence 'No Smoke' Crawford For Years

    A-Side, B-Side.

    We've heard it all before.

    But here's the thing: now that Chisora is essentially a veteran and the guy people call when they need a tough dance partner that they're fairly certain to beat, he holds a singular advantage over almost every other fighter in the game today.

    Chisora has given all but one of his opponents he's fought, a tough night. Chisora's resume is a who's who of the prior and current generations, having tangled with everyone except the slim few punchers like Wilder and Ortiz, and never crossing paths with the likes of Breezy, Stiverne and 'Prince' Charles Martin.

    But in almost every fight near the end of his storied career, Chisora has (happily) been the B-Side. He wants to get paid; he knows he draws money, but when he's up against the likes of Oleksandr Usyk or Tyson Fury, he readily accepts his place (and the check), shows up and goes to work.

    Like old school fighters used to.


    Contrast this with Terence 'No Smoke' Crawford, who seemingly believes he's always the A-Side, even when he's not. A guy whose own promoter told the world that he doesn't draw money and has lost enough money to buy a house out in Beverly Hills ("nice house"). Who then sued said promoter for racism despite that promoter having made plenty of African American and other non-Caucasian origin fighters millions of dollars.

    Fast forward and we hear that a welterweight unification - a FULL unification - is upon us. Errol 'The Truth' Spence vs. Terence 'No Smoke' Crawford.

    The story had been that Crawford would not want to fight the best version of Spence; so obviously this created excitement in the industry. Spence dispatches Yordenis Ugas in brutal fashion to unify 3 of the titles to Crawford's one; Crawford makes 'Showtime' Shawn Porter lose focus and causes Kenny Porter to stop the fight prematurely; which gives ESPN and others the excuse to declare Crawford #.1 P4P, which adds fuel to the fire.

    We then hear that Crawford is going to fight David Avenesyan, a decent B-level fighter.

    The problem is, with the exception of Porter and possibly Kell Brook, that's all Crawford has fought at 147, is B-level fighters. The demand of him was to step up and fight the top guy - which isn't him, by the way.

    Porter was a top guy, but as we learned after the fight, he was dealing with two bad hips and mentally already ready for retirement, plus drama with his dad that got in the way of a fight that Porter arguably took minimum 6 rounds in at the point of the stoppage.

    Kell Brook was a top guy with significant damage to his face, courtesy of Golovkin and that same Errol Spence, many years prior. His lack of punch resistance stopped us from seeing a true resolution to a fight where Kell arguably won all four rounds and started closing Crawford's eye.


    It's an indictment on Crawford that the man formerly known as 'Del Boy' has been willing to get fights done by accepting his B-Side status, yet Crawford still refuses to, and certain fans excuse it. The result: Fury and Chisora III selling out an arena simply because the fans love to see Chisora despite his losses.

    Remember, Fury didn't sell out with 'All In' Wallin.

    'WAR' Chisora should be respected for wanting to be that warrior.
    'No Smoke' Crawford deserves no respect for refusing to.
    Last edited by Combat Talk Radio; 10-27-2022, 08:59 AM.
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    Originally posted by Leicesterage
    The problem is, with the exception of Porter and possibly Kell Brook, that's all Crawford has fought at 147, is B-level fighters. The demand of him was to step up and fight the top guy - which isn't him, by the way.
    The problem is, with the exception of Porter and Danny Garcia, that's all Spence has fought at 147, is B-Level fighters.

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      Originally posted by War Room

      The problem is, with the exception of Porter and Danny Garcia, that's all Spence has fought at 147, is B-Level fighters.
      Kell Brook, Shawn Porter, Yordenis Ugas, Mikey Garcia and Danny Swift were all rated Top 5 Welterweights when Spence fought them. Mikey shouldn't have been, but he was.

      Of that list, 3 were champions.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Leicesterage

        Kell Brook, Shawn Porter, Yordenis Ugas, Mikey Garcia and Danny Swift were all rated Top 5 Welterweights when Spence fought them. Mikey shouldn't have been, but he was.

        Of that list, 3 were champions.
        "They were champions" these days, this is a phrase that by itself means almost nothing at all

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          #5
          Originally posted by Leicesterage

          Kell Brook, Shawn Porter, Yordenis Ugas, Mikey Garcia and Danny Swift were all rated Top 5 Welterweights when Spence fought them. Mikey shouldn't have been, but he was.

          Of that list, 3 were champions.
          Kell is a yorkie bummer who got knocked out in his fight before Spence lol. Who has Kell beat while we're at it? Literally nil.

          And Mikey Garcia was never a real welter, basically an overstuffed feather. How was he a top 5 welter when Spence was his first fight at welter? He literally jumped up two weight classes to fight Spence and you're giving Spence the scalp for that???

          Only reason Ugas got in was he got Manny's strap and Ugas almost had Spence knocked out and on top of that. Ugas is B-level with losses to D level fighters.

          A judge had Porter winning!

          Spence fought at 69kg in the amateurs which is a lot closer to jmw than ww and if you look at Spence record, he's had over 13 fights at jmw. He's beating up these smaller guys for a reason, he can't take a punch from his natural weight. Fuck Spence!

          And if you want to be completely transparent, what has Danny Garcia done at welter anyway? He's dogwank at 147. He's got old Malignaggi, Guerrero, and Rios. His best work is at 140.

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            #6
            Originally posted by War Room

            Kell is a yorkie bummer who got knocked out in his fight before Spence lol. Who has Kell beat while we're at it? Literally nil.

            And Mikey Garcia was never a real welter, basically an overstuffed feather. How was he a top 5 welter when Spence was his first fight at welter? He literally jumped up two weight classes to fight Spence and you're giving Spence the scalp for that???

            Only reason Ugas got in was he got Manny's strap and Ugas almost had Spence knocked out and on top of that. Ugas is B-level with losses to D level fighters.

            A judge had Porter winning!

            Spence fought at 69kg in the amateurs which is a lot closer to jmw than ww and if you look at Spence record, he's had over 13 fights at jmw. He's beating up these smaller guys for a reason, he can't take a punch from his natural weight. Fuck Spence!

            And if you want to be completely transparent, what has Danny Garcia done at welter anyway? He's dogwank at 147. He's got old Malignaggi, Guerrero, and Rios. His best work is at 140.
            "At The End Of The Day", reputable orgs had those five as Top 5 Welterweights when Spence fought them. Even Mikey.

            It doesn't matter whether you agree with their assessments.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Leicesterage

              "At The End Of The Day", reputable orgs had those five as Top 5 Welterweights when Spence fought them. Even Mikey.

              It doesn't matter whether you agree with their assessments.
              Pitiful response to be fair.

              Mikey hadn't fought at the weight and jumped up two classes though, like that's what really happened.

              You care little for the truth, but somehow prefer just what's on paper.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Leicesterage

                Kell Brook, Shawn Porter, Yordenis Ugas, Mikey Garcia and Danny Swift were all rated Top 5 Welterweights when Spence fought them. Mikey shouldn't have been, but he was.

                Of that list, 3 were champions.
                Damn War Room talking out her ass and getting owned in all these threads.

                Im done talking to her. She has some weird obsession with Errol Spence. She even has to talk about him somehow in Jake Paul threads.

                She is a very weird, immature, and troubled young lady.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by 4truth

                  "They were champions" these days, this is a phrase that by itself means almost nothing at all
                  It means a hell of a lot more than fighting David Avenesyan.

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                    Originally posted by War Room

                    Pitiful response to be fair.

                    Mikey hadn't fought at the weight and jumped up two classes though, like that's what really happened.

                    You care little for the truth, but somehow prefer just what's on paper.
                    Find it funny you say this yet you blindly accept Crawford as #.1 P4P despite fighting only one Top 5 in his 147 career (Porter).

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