Steven Nelson: Vergil Ortiz turned down Crawford fight for Dec 10.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Keith has the same manager as errol. So if he was talking to Keith that means Al allowed it.

Doesn't matter. Keef said he should fight Crawford and the winner would fight Spence, but both Crawford and Spence acted like he wasn't even a factor.

[Hustle]

Doesn't matter. Keef said he should fight Crawford and the winner would fight Spence, but both Crawford and Spence acted like he wasn't even a factor.

He isn't a factor. He's a tune up fight

[Combat Talk Radio]

He isn't a factor. He's a tune up fight

But that's the thing - IF Crawford was trying to get him in for a tune-up, it means Crawford was negotiating in bad faith because it means he had no intention of fighting Spence next.

This all could have been avoided if Crawford had simply come out back in March and said, "I'm going to take a tune-up fight before I fight Spence". No, he said Spence next repeatedly.

[Hustle]

But that's the thing - IF Crawford was trying to get him in for a tune-up, it means Crawford was negotiating in bad faith because it means he had no intention of fighting Spence next.

This all could have been avoided if Crawford had simply come out back in March and said, "I'm going to take a tune-up fight before I fight Spence". No, he said Spence next repeatedly.

How can you negotiate with spence manager in bad faith while negotiating with the same manager for a Thurman fight? Make it make sense

Haymon manages spence and thurman. Which means he would be negotiating 2 fights with bud at the same time.

[QueensburyRules]

- - Ain't a legit offer unless terms are acceptable, and everything around Craw stinks today, and in a biz that traditionally stinks, their stink is of offal off the charts.

Gonna have to go through Oscar to make an Ortiz fight, and it should be noted Ortiz not so far removed from his very rare medical diagnosis that had him him in ICU for a spell. Might need a few more fights to get his physical abilities sorted.

[Combat Talk Radio]

How can you negotiate with spence manager in bad faith while negotiating with the same manager for a Thurman fight? Make it make sense

Haymon manages spence and thurman. Which means he would be negotiating 2 fights with bud at the same time.

Crawford said Spence NEXT.

PBC doesn't double negotiate. That's why Manny had to fight Broner, there was no Keef (or Porter or Spence or Mikey) in conversation at the time.

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A lot of tribal nonsense here. Ortiz's team just had to submit paperwork if they wanted their WBO mandatory now. Why didn't they? Why didn't they when they were ranked previously No 1 and mandatory? Two chances to submit paperwork. Trail nonsense. His team doesn't think he is ready.