Do you think Roach still feels Mayweather is the easiest fight out there?

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  • madsweeney
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    #21
    Originally posted by tyde13
    go back and watch the fight again.....

    i don't recall hatton giving floyd a "run for his money."
    relative terms buddy. Was a one sided fight but Hatton was in the fight for the first six until he got tired from all the chasing.

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      #22
      Originally posted by mitruth
      Dude I get the fact that you don't like Mayweather and thats fine but seriously? Oscar has fought some big names like Tito/Chavez/Whitaker. Yet he never did anything close to the numbers he did with Floyd. Oscar was the star no doubt, Floyd had to bring something to surpass the previous efforts of Oscar's PPV resume. Pac vs Floyd is the biggest fight in boxing. Neither man can make more money fighting someone else. They both bring something to the table. Don't let you dislike for the guy blind you to that.
      umm Tito was a good fight early on in Occar's Career. Not enough yet to be as big and known as he is even today. That was a long time ago. Chavez/Whitaker...great fighters liked the fights, fighting a young DLH...come on, you think back then PPV would have been big with a new oscar?
      Just the idea that the star of DLH was fighting an undefeated fighter and P4P #1 guy made more people tune in .Also because of the hype 24/7 and the promotion was great pushing and shoving in the press conference...It was hyped. Mayweather had his chance to deliver. Instead he nearly lost. and it came down to a split decision. lol ... One hit wonder. The **** Mayweather did talk he couldnt back up and hes boring..... After JMM fight what casual fight fan would have friends over to see Floyd. Hes not exciting . Hes predictable . And the things hes known for are becoming more true now.
      Bob Arum hit the nail on the head in this video......

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        #23
        Originally posted by mitruth
        JMM isn't the easiest dude to stop. I think Jmm put on a bit too much weight as well. He shaould have came in around 142 fight night as opposed to 148 fight night. Still though. Mayweather hits and doesn't give many oppertunites to get hit back. Cotto at least will be more of a target. I think Cotto has a great shot in the fight and many are over looking him. If Pac were to get past Cotto I would love to see the gameplan they would have for Mayweather.
        JMM didnt throw punches ...Did you see the fight? Look at the punch stats. Not landed punches....Thrown!!! He didnt fight. He was there to be hit all 12 rounds and still didnt get stopped...If Manny was in that ring that night..JMM would have gotten hurt bad!

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          #24
          Originally posted by Pullcounter
          floyd is not a dangerous fighter. he's a potshotter.

          cotto and mosley are more dangerous for pac because they are harder punchers and are willing to brawl with pac.
          the fact that those two would try to brawl and make it a war is exactly why they arent as dangerous, they allow an oppurtunity and an opening to win the fight, floyd does no such thing. He may not be dangerous in terms of devastating power or brawling, but you do risk looking foolish and clueless during the fight.

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            #25
            Originally posted by PAC-BOY
            umm Tito was a good fight early on in Occar's Career. Not enough yet to be as big and known as he is even today. That was a long time ago. Chavez/Whitaker...great fighters liked the fights, fighting a young DLH...come on, you think back then PPV would have been big with a new oscar?
            Just the idea that the star of DLH was fighting an undefeated fighter and P4P #1 guy made more people tune in .Also because of the hype 24/7 and the promotion was great pushing and shoving in the press conference...It was hyped. Mayweather had his chance to deliver. Instead he nearly lost. and it came down to a split decision. lol ... One hit wonder. The **** Mayweather did talk he couldnt back up and hes boring..... After JMM fight what casual fight fan would have friends over to see Floyd. Hes not exciting . Hes predictable . And the things hes known for are becoming more true now.
            Bob Arum hit the nail on the head in this video......
            I think floyd excites you to some extent because every single ****ing thread with his name on it, you are in.

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              #26
              Originally posted by mitruth
              I'm not sure if he honestly thought that in the first place. Does anyone think that if that was truly his view as he said, it may have changed slightly?I think the fact that Mayweather is using the jab again makes things a little harder to come up with a game plan to beat him. Roach is good at putting together a game plan though so it should be interesting. Discuss.

              It's out of the context, he said Floyd was the easiest for Pac out of the Floyd, Shane, Cotto trio and i think that is true. Pac cannot beat Mosley and i belive Pac will lose to Cotto. I think Floyd will beat Pac to but Pac has a bigger chance to go twelve against Floyd as Floyd is a more defensive fighter who won't pressure Pac as Cotto would.

              I don't want to take anything away from Pac, he is a truly great fighter but i don't think he belongs in the ring with the top WWs.

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                #27
                Originally posted by PAC-BOY
                umm Tito was a good fight early on in Occar's Career. Not enough yet to be as big and known as he is even today. That was a long time ago. Chavez/Whitaker...great fighters liked the fights, fighting a young DLH...come on, you think back then PPV would have been big with a new oscar?
                Just the idea that the star of DLH was fighting an undefeated fighter and P4P #1 guy made more people tune in .Also because of the hype 24/7 and the promotion was great pushing and shoving in the press conference...It was hyped. Mayweather had his chance to deliver. Instead he nearly lost. and it came down to a split decision. lol ... One hit wonder. The **** Mayweather did talk he couldnt back up and hes boring..... After JMM fight what casual fight fan would have friends over to see Floyd. Hes not exciting . Hes predictable . And the things hes known for are becoming more true now.
                Bob Arum hit the nail on the head in this video......
                Originally posted by PAC-BOY
                JMM didnt throw punches ...Did you see the fight? Look at the punch stats. Not landed punches....Thrown!!! He didnt fight. He was there to be hit all 12 rounds and still didnt get stopped...If Manny was in that ring that night..JMM would have gotten hurt bad!
                Oscar Tito was one of the biggest selling fights in history. Oscar was prime and at the height of his popularity. Yes I saw the fight. JMM did not throw punches because Mayweather was countering everything and used defense to negate most of the punches from getting through.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Ivansmamma
                  It's out of the context, he said Floyd was the easiest for Pac out of the Floyd, Shane, Cotto trio and i think that is true. Pac cannot beat Mosley and i belive Pac will lose to Cotto. I think Floyd will beat Pac to but Pac has a bigger chance to go twelve against Floyd as Floyd is a more defensive fighter who won't pressure Pac as Cotto would.

                  I don't want to take anything away from Pac, he is a truly great fighter but i don't think he belongs in the ring with the top WWs.
                  He also said that Mawether was just an easy fight. Easily winnable.

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                    #29
                    Who knows what Roach really feels? Every day it seems we get another story about something he said, and it always seems to contradict something he said not that long ago.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by mitruth
                      He also said that Mawether was just an easy fight. Easily winnable.
                      If he said that and truly belives it he is deluded. I think he might have said it to provoke Mayweather.

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