Do you think Roach still feels Mayweather is the easiest fight out there?

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  • MoneyMay1
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    #11
    Originally posted by Pullcounter
    floyd is not a dangerous fighter. he's a potshotter.

    cotto and mosley are more dangerous for pac because they are harder punchers and are willing to brawl with pac.
    Here I go attempting to argue a point with Pullcounter again! lol... I agree, sir that Mosley and Cotto are more dangerous if we are talking about a potential flash knockout/barrage of punches that could potentially put Pac to sleep. However, if we are talking about a fighter being dangerous because of his ability to outbox you all day long and twice on Sundays, Floyd is more dangerous.

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      #12
      Originally posted by Pullcounter
      floyd is not a dangerous fighter. he's a potshotter.

      cotto and mosley are more dangerous for pac because they are harder punchers and are willing to brawl with pac.
      I disagree not in the fact that Cotto and Mosley hit harder, but in that Mayweather is not dangerous. Cotto hits harder but I think Mayweather would be harder to beat. Pac throws bombs at ridiculous speed but sometimes gets a little off balance. Mayweather can counter well with insane accuracy so even though the guys you mentioned have more pop Mayweather makes up for it with timing and accuracy. The stronger Cotto may fight Pac and never put him down where as the weaker Mayweather could possible put Pac down with a very well placed counter that was never seen coming. (hypothetical example.)

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        #13
        Originally posted by PAC-BOY
        GTFO When will Floyd bring Money. He cant sell nothing. Manny will sell and make a TON with who ever he fights. People like to watch Manny fight. Key word: FIGHT! Who the **** wants to watch a boring ass Mayweather fight LOL LOL ! Delusional
        Dude I get the fact that you don't like Mayweather and thats fine but seriously? Oscar has fought some big names like Tito/Chavez/Whitaker. Yet he never did anything close to the numbers he did with Floyd. Oscar was the star no doubt, Floyd had to bring something to surpass the previous efforts of Oscar's PPV resume. Pac vs Floyd is the biggest fight in boxing. Neither man can make more money fighting someone else. They both bring something to the table. Don't let you dislike for the guy blind you to that.

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          #14
          i think floyd is the easiest fight for pac cause he wont KO pac unlike cotto or shane who have a big possibility of stopping pac. and people got caught in the hype with floyd beating jmm, a small lightweight who moved up to welter looking fat, weak, and slow yet he cant even KO

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            #15
            Originally posted by mitruth
            I'm not sure if he honestly thought that in the first place. Does anyone think that if that was truly his view as he said, it may have changed slightly?I think the fact that Mayweather is using the jab again makes things a little harder to come up with a game plan to beat him. Roach is good at putting together a game plan though so it should be interesting. Discuss.
            roach may have felt a floyd fight provided the least amount of risk for manny getting seriously hurt.......but it's obviously the toughest fight for manny to win.

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              #16
              Originally posted by JM1
              i think floyd is the easiest fight for pac cause he wont KO pac unlike cotto or shane who have a big possibility of stopping pac. and people got caught in the hype with floyd beating jmm, a small lightweight who moved up to welter looking fat, weak, and slow yet he cant even KO
              Agreed. Not to mention Pac bring some hell to Floyd's style and advantages. Philly shell, negated, back peddling footspeed advantage, negated, hand speed, matched.

              Floyd rely's on his shell and reflexes/speed to great success. After seeing this fight I doubt pac would be afraid of taking PBF's shots especially if he can trade in the process. Nobody's really seen what PBF does when his defense is truly penetrated and Pac has most of the tools to do it: speed, high output and unorthodox angles (which are harder to see/dodge/block) not to mention he proabably exceeds PBF's speed/reflexes.

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                #17
                Originally posted by JM1
                i think floyd is the easiest fight for pac cause he wont KO pac unlike cotto or shane who have a big possibility of stopping pac. and people got caught in the hype with floyd beating jmm, a small lightweight who moved up to welter looking fat, weak, and slow yet he cant even KO
                JMM isn't the easiest dude to stop. I think Jmm put on a bit too much weight as well. He shaould have came in around 142 fight night as opposed to 148 fight night. Still though. Mayweather hits and doesn't give many oppertunites to get hit back. Cotto at least will be more of a target. I think Cotto has a great shot in the fight and many are over looking him. If Pac were to get past Cotto I would love to see the gameplan they would have for Mayweather.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by tyde13
                  roach may have felt a floyd fight provided the least amount of risk for manny getting seriously hurt.......but it's obviously the toughest fight for manny to win.
                  Why does everyone think Floyd is so tough against the truly talented boxer/puncher/brawlers?!? If Hatton could give him a run for his money imagine what a Cotto, Mosely, Pac could do!

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by madsweeney
                    Why does everyone think Floyd is so tough against the truly talented boxer/puncher/brawlers?!? If Hatton could give him a run for his money imagine what a Cotto, Mosely, Pac could do!
                    go back and watch the fight again.....

                    i don't recall hatton giving floyd a "run for his money."

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by mitruth
                      JMM isn't the easiest dude to stop. I think Jmm put on a bit too much weight as well. He shaould have came in around 142 fight night as opposed to 148 fight night. Still though. Mayweather hits and doesn't give many oppertunites to get hit back. Cotto at least will be more of a target. I think Cotto has a great shot in the fight and many are over looking him. If Pac were to get past Cotto I would love to see the gameplan they would have for Mayweather.
                      Me too! I'd imagine Roach will instruct Pac to resort to some of his older ways of pressuring and those 10+ hit combos (I know only 3-4 will connect but thats the point). As fun as his past few fights have been, I'm starting to miss the brawler and I think that's what he'll have to do cuz there's no damn way he can outbox floyd.

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