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  • Lefty0616
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    #11
    Originally posted by JuniorTorres720
    If Loma beats both Haney and Shakur and becomes Undisputed, that would be some elite level GOAT ish.
    I think Loma loses to one if not both of them.

    While Loma has a puncher's chance and the ability to win on scorecards, Haney and Stevenson have more speed and skills. Loma is very savvy, however, and knows how to take advantage of his opponent's lack of experience and mental lapses late in fights.

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      #12
      IMHO Loma's bone structure is to small for 135. Even at 130 or 126 not sure he can beat Shakur. Haney is a toss up since he still hasn't mastered distance.. He falls into his opponent way to often giving Loma a chance despite the size difference.

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        Styles make fights. Loma's had a ton of experience being the smaller guy and making his way in past guys with more reach and power, and his style is very close to unique in boxing. He's much more likely a natural 130 lb fighter from his frame. Stevenson maybe can beat him, but i doubt Haney can. Loma's got a great clinch game too, when Haney is close in. Either way, will be good technical fights that I would like to see, if everyone can stay in good health.

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        • JuniorTorres720
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          #14
          Originally posted by Lefty0616

          I think Loma loses to one if not both of them.

          While Loma has a puncher's chance and the ability to win on scorecards, Haney and Stevenson have more speed and skills. Loma is very savvy, however, and knows how to take advantage of his opponent's lack of experience and mental lapses late in fights.
          They're all great match ups but I disagree that Loma has a puncher's chance. That's a discredit to his accomplishments in the business and the skills he brings to the table. He's the most decorated of the three and also has the highest knockout percentage. At 34 he demonstrated that he is an elite fighter when he dominated Commey. I wouldn't say he has a puncher's chance. Age is arguably the only factor working against him. But a prime Loma would beat Haney and Shakur imo.

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            #15
            Originally posted by JuniorTorres720

            They're all great match ups but I disagree that Loma has a puncher's chance. That's a discredit to his accomplishments in the business and the skills he brings to the table. He's the most decorated of the three and also has the highest knockout percentage. At 34 he demonstrated that he is an elite fighter when he dominated Commey. I wouldn't say he has a puncher's chance. Age is arguably the only factor working against him. But a prime Loma would beat Haney and Shakur imo.
            Agreed, but "puncher's chance" when you consider how Loma sets up the punch to generate power..it's 100% skill. Strategy to get the guy in right location, movement, angles and shot selection to create the opening on top of using the opponents momentum/weight to maximize the impact while transfering his weight etc..

            That's why i like fighters like Loma, RJJ, Leonard, Robinson, Ali..
            Last edited by Deleted; 10-24-2022, 04:25 PM.

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              #16
              Originally posted by JuniorTorres720

              They're all great match ups but I disagree that Loma has a puncher's chance. That's a discredit to his accomplishments in the business and the skills he brings to the table. He's the most decorated of the three and also has the highest knockout percentage. At 34 he demonstrated that he is an elite fighter when he dominated Commey. I wouldn't say he has a puncher's chance. Age is arguably the only factor working against him. But a prime Loma would beat Haney and Shakur imo.
              I meant no disrespect by "puncher's chance. I merely said he could win by knockout or on points. And while he has a nice amateur background and decent pro record, let's face it. Loma has faced quite a few contenders/pretenders. He hasn't beaten anyone that was ever dominant. The same can be said about Haney and Stevenson. These are great matchups, but I don't favor Loma. He has to show me something against either opponen, Tank, or in a rematch with Teofimo.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Lefty0616
                Loma respects Stevenson, and rightfully so. Stevenson is a very good talent, with a high boxing IQ. He'll often read a fight before it takes place (involving other opponents that are facing each other, and not himself)....and is usually spot on. I think Stevenson will give any of his fellow elite opponents a run for their money - including Loma. Loma respects and understands this.
                Loma's a class act. I agree a Loma and Shakur fight would be top class and a fight that would bring out the masses, dumb fans and boxing aficionados who respect the finer things in the pugilustic art.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Lefty0616

                  I meant no disrespect by "puncher's chance. I merely said he could win by knockout or on points. And while he has a nice amateur background and decent pro record, let's face it. Loma has faced quite a few contenders/pretenders. He hasn't beaten anyone that was ever dominant. The same can be said about Haney and Stevenson. These are great matchups, but I don't favor Loma. He has to show me something against either opponen, Tank, or in a rematch with Teofimo.
                  Name one person on Shakur's resume better than Walters in his prime, Linares in his prime, Rigo in his prime, Gary Russel in his prime. The same shoes you put on Loma go on Shakur. Who dazzled so much they quit on the stand when fighting Shakur? Can Shakur beat Nagatani? That's fair game if you r going to ask that.
                  Last edited by TDLand; 10-24-2022, 05:36 PM.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Since1976

                    Agreed, but "puncher's chance" when you consider how Loma sets up the punch to generate power..it's 100% skill. Strategy to get the guy in right location, movement, angles and shot selection to create the opening on top of using the opponents momentum/weight to maximize the impact while transfering his weight etc..

                    That's why i like fighters like Loma, RJJ, Leonard, Robinson, Ali..
                    Exactly.

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                    • TDLand
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07
                      Styles make fights. Loma's had a ton of experience being the smaller guy and making his way in past guys with more reach and power, and his style is very close to unique in boxing. He's much more likely a natural 130 lb fighter from his frame. Stevenson maybe can beat him, but i doubt Haney can. Loma's got a great clinch game too, when Haney is close in. Either way, will be good technical fights that I would like to see, if everyone can stay in good health.
                      Loma def can handle the clinch. The yanking arms down and away, quick step back and upper cut, Mike Tyson side to side and across the temple, lights out. If you ever notice Haney lifts his back foot when he follows through and loses all his force for punching power. It's pure arm power. It's why he can't knock out much smaller opponents. Loma sits down on his punches. Go watch the slam to Commey from close up. In very close being clinched. Bam, from Loma, down. Haney tries to clinch, lights out. Crolla across the body from Loma temple shot, down and out. Again up close.
                      Last edited by TDLand; 10-24-2022, 05:48 PM.

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