Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Wilder, Plant, Haney-Lomachenko, Rivera, More

[Jab jab boom]

Wouldn't you also favor Lennox Lewis, both Klitschkos, Mike Tyson, etc to also KO everybody Wilder beat? It's not a particularly strong resume whether the fighters were ranked or not. Most people agree it's a weak era.

Yes I would also favor those massive punchers who also happen to be hall of famers over wilder’s opposition. That still doesn’t prove your theory. Not even a little bit.

[wrecksracer]

Yes I would also favor those massive punchers who also happen to be hall of famers over wilder’s opposition. That still doesn’t prove your theory. Not even a little bit.

Ok, so level of competition doesn't matter. Wilder is clearly an ATG puncher for KOing guys that wouldn't even be ranked in the 90s.

[Jab jab boom]

Ok, so level of competition doesn't matter. Wilder is clearly an ATG puncher for KOing guys that wouldn't even be ranked in the 90s.

I’m not saying he’s fought hall of famers but you act like he’s fighting fruit vendors off the street. He’s fighting top 10 ranked guys in his division. If this hw division is so weak and can be ko’d easily, why doesn’t anyone else have his ko%? Hardly anyone in any division in any division has his ko%. There’s plenty you can criticize wilder for but of all 50 negative things you can say about him, doubting his punching power is ridiculous.

[topo5358]

Wilder is an ATG puncher, maybe THE ATG puncher. People are forever dissing his resume but he was champ for 5 years and defended at least 10 times. How many defenses has Fury made? There is another angle to look at here. When fighters train to fight for the title, especially against a super-dangerous champ, they train. HARD! They bring their "A" game. They are fighting to set themselves for life. They are going to be the absolute best version of themselves. Ali and Foreman fought some subpar opponents too. Foreman fought 5 guys in one night, none of whom belonged anywhere a world champ or former one. Wilder may be the hardest hitter ever, he may not be, but he is certainly the quickest striking destroyer I've ever seen. I had to watch the replay 5 times to see the punch he hit Helenius with, and then it wasn't a very clear view but you certainly couldn't mistake the sound.

[Boxingfanatic75]

I know everybody wants Wilder to be the biggest puncher ever. It doesn't change that he has lost to the only top fighter he has fought. Other than Fury, which of the fighters he has fought are known for an iron chin? Which of the guys he has fought are known for good defense? It's a weak era.

Why are we even talking about Tank potentially being great? It's ridiculous to even consider until he starts fighting live fighters. The joke will be on his fans if he steps up and loses. That's why he's never going to step up.

I’ll go with the man that has forgotten more about boxing than you or I combined when he says Wilder is one of the hardest punchers he has ever seen in the history of boxing. That man would be George Foreman. And I dare say he personally knows just a weeee bit about power punchers.

[Legends456]

I’ve personally seen fighters take dives in fights. I’ve seen fighters get hurt then act more hurt in order to get the fight stopped. I won’t say who the fighters are but I’ve seen it at least 4 times.

I’ve seen two GGG opponents do it. It’s obvious when you see it, if you know what to look for.

Any guesses who Bread is referring to?

I’d like to think the Macklin delayed body shot knockout was for real, as it’s one of my favorites. That said, it is an unusually delayed and dramatic fall, which seems to run counter to the more typical body shot knockout where the recipient tends to slowly kneel and sort of fold in on themselves. I have sometimes wondered about that one for those reasons.

[Legends456]

I’ll go with the man that has forgotten more about boxing than you or I combined when he says Wilder is one of the hardest punchers he has ever seen in the history of boxing. That man would be George Foreman. And I dare say he personally knows just a weeee bit about power punchers.

Pure one shot KO power like Wilder has is pretty rare. Even many of the great KO artists, like Mike Tyson, tended to score some of their most brutal knockouts via combinations and not just one shot.

Some notable scary one-punch power punchers from all weight classes, off the top of my head, in no particular order, are:

• George Foreman (obviously)
• Naoya Inoue
• David Tua
• Tommy Hearns
• Wladimir Klitschko
• Rocky Marciano
• Roberto Durán
• Julian Jackson
• Joe Louis
• Gerald McClellan

Those are some guys where you watch their fights, you almost find yourself holding your breath, because you know one well-placed shot might end it.

Honorable mention to Anne Wolfe

[siablo14]

I’d like to think the Macklin delayed body shot knockout was for real, as it’s one of my favorites. That said, it is an unusually delayed and dramatic fall, which seems to run counter to the more typical body shot knockout where the recipient tends to slowly kneel and sort of fold in on themselves. I have sometimes wondered about that one for those reasons.

Which Macklin fight was that?

[Legends456]

Which Macklin fight was that?

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[Boxingfanatic75]

Pure one shot KO power like Wilder has is pretty rare. Even many of the great KO artists, like Mike Tyson, tended to score some of their most brutal knockouts via combinations and not just one shot.

Some notable scary one-punch power punchers from all weight classes, off the top of my head, in no particular order, are:

• George Foreman (obviously)
• Naoya Inoue
• David Tua
• Tommy Hearns
• Wladimir Klitschko
• Rocky Marciano
• Roberto Durán
• Julian Jackson
• Joe Louis
• Gerald McClellan

Those are some guys where you watch their fights, you almost find yourself holding your breath, because you know one well-placed shot might end it.

Honorable mention to Anne Wolfe

Other honorable mentions:
Jerry Cooney
Earnie Shavers
Sonny Liston