To be honest, Ruiz can be able to handle Wilder

[TMLT87]

I But he was hailed in Britain as an all-time great. For some reason the UK does this with their athletes.

Within the UK he is an ATG though. I'm not saying he is in overall boxing history but as far British boxing history? he is one of the most successful UK HWs ever and probably the biggest domestic star/draw ever too.

[al-Xander]

Who else is there for Wilder other than Ruiz for a PBC card?

[TMLT87]

that has nothing to do with the fact Wlad was 41 and no huge deaL

Was he a huge deal 17 months earlier when Fury beat him? what about when Wilder beat Ortiz who was as old as Wlad but nowhere near as accomplished and suspected of being much older than he claimed to be?

[Mikeh333]

Within the UK he is an ATG though. I'm not saying he is in overall boxing history but as far British boxing history? he is one of the most successful UK HWs ever and probably the biggest domestic star/draw ever too.

Well as far as the UK was concerned he was the second coming of Joe Louis. He was a huge draw, and that’s fine for him, but he is a solid but unspectacular fighter. Britain simultaneously hyped and protects its athletes, in other sports too. It’s weird. I don’t see how he stands up to Lennox zLrwis, however.

[TMLT87]

Well as far as the UK was concerned he was the second coming of Joe Louis. He was a huge draw, and that’s fine for him, but he is a solid but unspectacular fighter. Britain simultaneously hyped and protects its athletes, in other sports too. It’s weird. I don’t see how he stands up to Lennox zLrwis, however.

How was he protected? protected is Wilder going 9 years, 39 fights and 6 title defences without fighting a single elite opponent. Out of the "big 3" of HW ie AJ, Fury, Wilder its the American who took the least risks in his career, and yet hes had the most fights and been around the longest.

The whole "Britain hypes its athletes" thing always cracks me up too. Because all it really means is they give a **** about boxing over there and will actually turn up to support their fighters. Thats a good thing. Boxing would be even less relevant than it currently is if it wasnt for the UK carrying more than its fair share of the sports remaining popularity.

[ELPacman]

I don't like Ruiz's chances vs Wilder. When Ruiz fought AJ, AJ appeared mostly like a deer caught in headlights at times. He just wasn't all there. Wilder is crazy dangerous and in the moment always. He'll wait for those mistakes that Ruiz makes often. The arm length and speed of Wilder means he'll sneak in those brutal punches and I'm not sure Ruiz will get up the same way he did from the AJ punch.

[Mikeh333]

How was he protected? protected is Wilder going 9 years, 39 fights and 6 title defences without fighting a single elite opponent. Out of the "big 3" of HW ie AJ, Fury, Wilder its the American who took the least risks in his career, and yet hes had the most fights and been around the longest.

The whole "Britain hypes its athletes" thing always cracks me up too. Because all it really means is they give a **** about boxing over there and will actually turn up to support their fighters. Thats a good thing. Boxing would be even less relevant than it currently is if it wasnt for the UK carrying more than its fair share of the sports remaining popularity.

I agree, Wilder was absolutely protected for a long time. He did fight Ortiz twice when most of the rest of the division wouldn’t even k ce, but I agree much of Wilder’s career has been against unspectacular opposition.

Regarding Joshua - he was paid and hyped as if he were an ATG, but he never was. Ricky Hatton was the same way. You see it in track as well, as athletes are well paid in Britain but less impressive internationally.

[Rosco3387]

I like what Juggernaught said about Ruiz and the quality of Wilder's opposition... it should be at least considered. With that said Ruiz is a talented guy, but a guy who seems to have accepted certain flaws as inevitable. He has no head movement, slow feet and maybe caught a bit more from Tito than he should have... Though Ortiz always seems to defy his nay sayers lol. Lets also keep in mind little facts like the Areola fight with Ruiz combined (both men) threw an insane amount of punches during that fight... so maybe Chris, like Ortiz was not so washed up?

If Ruiz got his proverbial "shyte" together and could pressure Wilder it might make things interesting... Wilder generally can stay back, pop off a jab now and then with his insane reach, and the opponent knowing about Wilder's magic punch, make it so Wilder never has to deal with pressure and can decide when to attack. But Wilder has insane footspeed and knows to come in light.,. I think this makes him better than whatever he was before.

[Hooded Terror]

Ruiz has very fast hands and I believe underrated power, but, I simply cannot get over how far the pendulum swung between the first Joshua fight AND the Arreola match. For all of his faults, I believe Wilder will stop Ruiz with a precise shot sometime in the initial 3rd of a contest, perhaps, even in the midst of trouble.