Shane Mosley: "I Wasn't Impressed By Mayweather"

[Jiddu Dali]

pac/hatton sold 50k less in the US than hatton/floyd

what do you have to say about that

i dont have to say anything...

Mayweathers fight sold more

[Glamour Puss]

That's not much of an analogy. Hopkins fights at 175 now not 160. That would be 28 lbs, not 12 like Marquez had to go up.

Also, I don't think his size was as much of a factor as his speed was in the fight. Even though Mayweather is bigger, he was faster and made JMM look slow. It's not like he was pushing JMM around using his weight, he was moving in and out and getting off his shots and then keeping JMM on the outside of his jab.

I realize that JMM's added weight could have slowed him down a bit but he didn't look much slower than he normally does to me.

Don't get me wrong, I love JMM and I take nothing from him. He had some real balls to challenge a bigger guy to a fight at an untested weight. He never gave up and tried his hardest to win the entire fight, even though he barely won a round.

As for the thread, Mosley really wants this fight so let's fookin 'ave it! Ideally for me, I'd like to see Cotto vs. Mayweather. That's a fight that I've wanted to see for years now. If Cotto beats Pac, that fight has to happen!

Mayweather moving up 13 pounds to 60' would greatly diminish his speed too.

But the analogy is meant as a jump from your natural weight. JMM is really a career FW not LW. So him fighting at WW is a 22' pound departure from his best weight.

If you think that speed was not much faster than he usually is, then you must have not seen his fights against Pac where he matched him punch for punch.

[djtmal]

So, let me get this straight:

Shane went, what, six years without a stoppage. He couldn't stop David Estrada, Jose Luis Cruz, Luis Collazo or Miguel Cotto. He came two seconds from going the distance with Mayorga in a close fight. Let me repeat that: Shane was in a close fight with Ricardo Mayorga. But Shane is suddenly some monster?

Great win by Shane over Margarito. But do you think any other top welterweight eats 150 right hands all night? The same punch over and over?

Both Oscar and Tito stopped Mayorga by the middle rounds. Oscar and Tito hurt Vargas much worse than Shane. Zab Judah hurt Cotto worse than Shane.


I would definitely suggest some perspective on Shane's monstrous one-punch power.

shane was never a one-punch ko artist...everybody knows his steez...he breaks cats down with one of the most viscious body attacks since mike mccallum...at the same time he can crack pretty good upstairs with the right hand and the left hook....first person i saw make cotto fight in retreat after 8 or 8 toe to toe rounds and cotto needed help from the judges to get a decision...oscar can get b fighters at ww out of there with a single left hook, tito could do it with both hands to any fighter below 160 and to scrubs at 160...

we want to see how floyd deals with shane's speed, power, and resiliency...somebody who can hit "scared money" back and land consistently for 12 rounds on that chin....

[fdotorres]

So now, the only way Mayweather can be given credit is if he only fights Mosely? I thought Pacman was the best there is, isn't he ranked #1? Is he the so called "king" whom would whoop Mayweather with his huge power and relentless attack from awkward angles?

And what about Cotto? Not a good Welter anymore...what happen to the chants on any true welter weight whooping Mayweather's ass? I guess Cotto is shot now because he barely got by Clottey with one eye and lost to a guy with loaded gloves.

Its always something....it doesn't matter who Mayweather fights, its never good enough.

Fact is, the winner of Pac- Cotto will be the big mega fight no matter what. I'd like to see Mayweather fight Mosely as well but he has to get inline. Call it 'ducking' if you will.

he says he's the best and campaigns at WW, yet he isn't the best WW

and no, pac isn't a WW, unless he beats cotto

if floyd fights pac, lets see him do it at a catch weight. is that bothers him, then lets see him fight a top WW so he gets a legit position in there

[tantaran69]

He's just hustling..... he doesn't know what else to do. Him and his crew are more than impressed. HHE he-he knknowknows bebetttterrr.

[fdotorres]

i dont have to say anything...

Mayweathers fight sold more

you brought the racial argument, didn't you? yeah, it only sold 50k more, yet pac/hatton was a fight of two guys not related to the US, but sold almost as much as a fight that involved the best US boxer

pac sells as much as floyd in floyd's country. what does that mean?

[Jiddu Dali]

Mayweather moving up 13 pounds to 60' would greatly diminish his speed too.

But the analogy is meant as a jump from your natural weight. JMM is really a career FW not LW. So him fighting at WW is a 22' pound departure from his best weight.

If you think that speed was not much faster than he usually is, then you must have not seen his fights against Pac where he matched him punch for punch.

lol...huh?

so it wasnt Marquez's boxing skills that lost him the fight it was his speed?...lol

[fdotorres]

lol...huh?

so it wasnt Marquez's boxing skills that lost him the fight it was his speed?...lol

speed is part of one's skills in boxing

in your opinion, is a perfect hook in slow motion better than an average hook being thrown very fast?

[project xxx1]

So, let me get this straight:

Shane went, what, six years without a stoppage. He couldn't stop David Estrada, Jose Luis Cruz, Luis Collazo or Miguel Cotto. He came two seconds from going the distance with Mayorga in a close fight. Let me repeat that: Shane was in a close fight with Ricardo Mayorga. But Shane is suddenly some monster?

Great win by Shane over Margarito. But do you think any other top welterweight eats 150 right hands all night? The same punch over and over?

Both Oscar and Tito stopped Mayorga by the middle rounds. Oscar and Tito hurt Vargas much worse than Shane. Zab Judah hurt Cotto worse than Shane.


I would definitely suggest some perspective on Shane's monstrous one-punch power.

perfect perfect perfect

[Glamour Puss]

lol...huh?

so it wasnt Marquez's boxing skills that lost him the fight it was his speed?...lol

Yep, JMM put on too much weight, Floyd was fighting in his natural class and JMM was not.

I know you like to believe it was a fair and even fight, but I don't think even you're that delusional.

A young JMM at 130' can beat Floyd.