[Masterthread] Mayweather Prime Call-Outs Timeline

[Combat Talk Radio]

This thread is pointless because it will always end up in "well did he send a contract doe!?"

Because some of these people don't understand that Floyd was HEAVILY avoided...which is why the Gatti fight happened. The Baldomir fight happened because mainstream media pressured him to fight Baldomir instead of Cory Spinks (NSB/hardcores 'eye test').

Zab Judah destroys Spinks, Floyd fights Judah and NSB/hardcores criticize him for it.


It didn't matter what Floyd did. They're trying to rewrite history on the man. Bottom line - many of them (Oscar, Mosley, Cotto, even Pacquiao) were happy to wait for that man to get a lil bit older before accepting a fight with him.

[War Room]

This thread is pointless because it will always end up in "well did he send a contract doe!?"

Because some of these people don't understand that Floyd was HEAVILY avoided...which is why the Gatti fight happened. The Baldomir fight happened because mainstream media pressured him to fight Baldomir instead of Cory Spinks (NSB/hardcores 'eye test').

Zab Judah destroys Spinks, Floyd fights Judah and NSB/hardcores criticize him for it.


It didn't matter what Floyd did. They're trying to rewrite history on the man. Bottom line - many of them (Oscar, Mosley, Cotto, even Pacquiao) were happy to wait for that man to get a lil bit older before accepting a fight with him.

This thread isn't pointless because people very often say he ducked the best fights and waited other fighters out. Now there is one thread that can be copied/pasted into those detrator threads for ease of use. This masterthread is a very useful tool.

Additional arguement is Floyd wasn't in control of his career until he left Top Rank and once he did all the big fights were made...which pretty much shuts everyone down.

[djtmal]

Nobody really has a problem with Pretty Boy and yeah he called some guys out, but why did he back out of the fights of guys that was calling him out. If the guys he was calling out don't want to fight ok we acknowledge that but what Floyd Boys hate to understand is there is always two sides not just the side that benefits Floyd.

Margarito followed him around and Floyd turned down a career high payday. Floyd backed out of a Winky Wright fight at this time as well and he called Winky Wright out. Years before that tired Shane toothache story Shane said he called Floyd direct at lightweight but Floyd said he was not interested. When prime undefeated Cotto put it all together he called Floyd out but Floyd took a two year vacation.
Manny vs Floyd was a done deal then Floyd at the last minute wanted to throw in an ost demand that made that negotiation go sour.

Floyd cherrypicking isn't some made up story without backing facts.

[786]

He's now cherrypicking youtubers after his loss to Logan Paul. He's ducking Jake Paul and KSI because he'd get KO'd and is fighting KSI's inferior younger brother. Probably needs a couple more tune ups to build his confidence after that embarrassing loss.

[War Room]

Nobody really has a problem with Pretty Boy but why did he back out of the fights of guys that was calling him out. Margarito followed him around and Floyd turned down a career high payday. Floyd backed out of a Winky Wright at this time as well.

[hhh1200]

I don't think you fully understand Floyds full arsenal, its way way more than pot-shoting, if that's all Floyd had he would have been beaten a number of times; his biggest asset is his ability to be able to adapt to the situation, his control of range and pace is so subtle and smooth, you're not seeing the complete package of what Floyd can do, which explains a lot of what you say.

I don't think he could beat Hearns or Ray because they are too big, no other reason, if they were all 135-140 pounders I would back Floyd to UD them. as I said Manny is not in these convos because he small, Floyd is also small compared to full blown WWs.

I do and so does Al Haymon. That's why he defended the WBA/WBC 154 vs Maidana for 2 easy PPVs vs the Home contender and his prime at the time at 154 Erislandy Lara. Then again, Ronnie Shields is on video saying when he approached Haymon about the fight he said that ain't happening. The video is out there somewhere or are you saying Maidana is superior at 154 fighters to Lara?

[djtmal]

Ducking isn't even a question. He backed out of a negotiation with Margarito

[hugh grant]

Floyd did duck and wouldnt allow young fighters who were considered tomorows superstars make a name off of Floyd. No Spence, Thurman, Bud fights. He wouldnt allow talents to make a name off of him, yet liked to fight yesteryears superstars ie DLH, SSM, Cotto etc

[Combat Talk Radio]

Floyd did duck and wouldnt allow young fighters who were considered tomorows superstars make a name off of Floyd. No Spence, Thurman, Bud fights. He wouldnt allow talents to make a name off of him, yet liked to fight yesteryears superstars ie DLH, SSM, Cotto etc

So when Crawford chose to fight:

- Khan after he was damn near killed by Canelo
- Brook after his face was destroyed by Spence and Golovkin
- Jose Benavidez after getting shot in the knee
- Porter 3 years after the first callout


Are you just as critical of him ("yesteryears superstars")?

[djtmal]

I don't think you fully understand Floyds full arsenal, its way way more than pot-shoting, if that's all Floyd had he would have been beaten a number of times; his biggest asset is his ability to be able to adapt to the situation, his control of range and pace is so subtle and smooth, you're not seeing the complete package of what Floyd can do, which explains a lot of what you say.

I don't think he could beat Hearns or Ray because they are too big, no other reason, if they were all 135-140 pounders I would back Floyd to UD them. as I said Manny is not in these convos because he small, Floyd is also small compared to full blown WWs.

Please man you guys are hilarious you think people don't see what is going on the guy is clearly cherrypicking the same type of fighter either a good shopworn fighter with a name, or an overrated c fighter with a name, risk factor about 30% or less. Has to have total control over the whole situation as well from rehydration to what shoelaces the guy can wear. Same thing over and over because he don't want to put in no work in the ring.

Nobody doesn't really give Floyd a shot against Hearns or Srl not because those guys were bigger but because in their primes those guys were just good man they were just that good and you had to go through them to beat them.

Floyds biggest asset is cherrypicking the right time to fight guys and coming up with humdingers for excuses when it's time to avoid them.