Comments Thread For: Helenius Expects Wilder's Power To Resemble That Of Samuel Peter, Lamon Brewster

[SteveM]

Brewster: 30 KOs in 41 fights
Peter: 31 KOs in 47 fights
Wilder: 41 KOs in 45 fights

c'mon

I can't be bothered to go into all their records but a couple things
a/ Wilder can only win most of his fights with a KO - so all of his effort is to get the KO - not sure that was the case of Brewster and Peter
b/ I do know that Wilder's resume, early resume especially, is padded with very low level fighters - so of those 45 fights you can knock at least 15 of them off his record to get a more accurate idea

[Oldskoolg]

HW boxing was really robbed of Ike Ibeabuchi. We’ll never know how far his power would have taken him

And his chin combined with the fact that he could throw bombs for 12 rounds. After that Tua fight and the Byrd fight I’m sure the whole division was glad they didn’t have to fight him. He would have totally steamrolled Wlad and would have been too busy for Vitali. Seems he was bi-polar and his behaviour seems consistent with that but I wonder if that fight with Tua also resulted in a traumatic brain injury they worsened his mental health

[Knuckle sandwich]

I agree with another post here, this fight might depend on whether Helenius can get up from the canvas and effectively fight back, if he is in the form he was in when he fought Peters he will stop wilder, Peters stayed knocked out for 5 minutes in that fight

[joe strong]

Peter & Brewster were shop worn by that point. Nice names on the resume along with Liahkovich but all 3 former world champions were well into the back 9 of their careers when Robert beat them. Then the Chisora fight happened & his career was never the same after until he won the 2 Kownacki fights.

[joe strong]

I agree with another post here, this fight might depend on whether Helenius can get up from the canvas and effectively fight back, if he is in the form he was in when he fought Peters he will stop wilder, Peters stayed knocked out for 5 minutes in that fight

Peters was fat & washed up by that point. I followed his career. The only guys he knocked out were stiffs, journeymen & the glass jaw Oleg Maskaev. Sure he dropped Wladimir 3 times but couldn’t finish him. Dropped Toney with a jab on a flash KD but never hurt him in 2 fights & he couldn’t hurt Eddie Chambers. Peter’s power was not as big as many think. He was never trailing on the cards against a contender & won by brutal KO like Wilder or David Tua.

[Knuckle sandwich]

Peters was fat & washed up by that point. I followed his career. The only guys he knocked out were stiffs, journeymen & the glass jaw Oleg Maskaev. Sure he dropped Wladimir 3 times but couldn’t finish him. Dropped Toney with a jab on a flash KD but never hurt him in 2 fights & he couldn’t hurt Eddie Chambers. Peter’s power was not as big as many think. He was never trailing on the cards against a contender & won by brutal KO like Wilder or David Tua.

Peters couldn't box, plus he never punched correctly, but yeah Peters was far from world class

[SN!PER]

I'll give Helenius more credit for the Peter win than the Brewster win.

Brewster was 37 years old, Sam Peter was 31 and had just done 10 rounds with Klitschko. Helenius finished him in 9.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Helenius beat washed up versions of Brewster and Peter. His best win was unbeaten contender Kownacki.

[Rosco3387]

Helenius has no answer for an 84 inch reach and fleet footed Wilder. I think at one point brewster had some real ****... Maybe years ago lol. Heenius even if he catchesd Wilder would have to be able to finish him... don't see it happening.

[joe strong]

Helenius has no answer for an 84 inch reach and fleet footed Wilder. I think at one point brewster had some real ****... Maybe years ago lol. Heenius even if he catchesd Wilder would have to be able to finish him... don't see it happening.

Brewster could crack but like Arreola, Stiverne & Kownacki his prime was cut short due to the take 2 punches to land one…