Learn To Love it Floyd Mayweather Jr. is Still No. 1

[Dirt E Gomez]

I'm no English major but then again, you don't seem too bright yourself. This is what you said:


Easily cut weight and go down a division or maybe even two, right? Going down 2lbs is obviously infinitely harder.

Given time and a decision I 100% believe Floyd could drop to JWW and compete. Obviously 135 is harder; and hence my statement was as assured regarding that weight division; because I do think it would be a stretch and given his time off it is unlikely he could do it without punishing his body; thus making it even more unlikely.

[Jim Jeffries]

In my opinion from the facts that have been presented and time line of the events I think Floyd chose not to cut the weight. He could have dropped the remaining 2 pounds needed for the stipulated weight. He didn't want to cut the additional pounds as he felt it would be detrimental to his abilities in the ring at this point so he renegotiated the contract knowing there was a good chance he'd come in a pound or two over weight.

I think it was somewhat of a ***** move and he should have manned up and hit the steam room but he chose the easier, albeit more expensive, path.

Perhaps. Personally I think Floyd could cut weight, but since had to lose 10 lbs to fight Chavez, he has chosen not to. He probably thought the layoff would affect him more than it did and that Marquez would present more of a challenge than he did. Or he just wanted to make a bigger statement via a more dominating performance. Only Floyd knows.

[IMDAZED]

Given time and a decision I 100% believe Floyd could drop to JWW and compete. Obviously 135 is harder; and hence my statement was as assured regarding that weight division; because I do think it would be a stretch and given his time off it is unlikely he could do it without punishing his body; thus making it even more unlikely.

He had 21 months to get to whatever weight he felt like that. He couldn't even get to 144 and you somehow think he could do 140 and (gasp!) 135? Sure, bud.

[Dirt E Gomez]

Perhaps. Personally I think Floyd could cut weight, but since had to lose 10 lbs to fight Chavez, he has chosen not to. He probably thought the layoff would affect him more than it did and that Marquez would present more of a challenge than he did. Or he just wanted to make a bigger statement via a more dominating performance. Only Floyd knows.

I think they run hand in hand. He was afraid of looking worse and underestimated his abilities. He thought he needed to be in tip-top shape so cutting those pounds would hurt his game and leave him vulnerable. Who knows, maybe Floyd isn't quite as self-confident as he appears. He is very *****-like at times.

[Dirt E Gomez]

He had 21 months to get to whatever weight he felt like that. He couldn't even get to 144 and you somehow think he could do 140 and (gasp!) 135? Sure, bud.

You're right. Floyd was clearly preparing for Marquez ever since his "retirement". He had secretly been training this whole time. Analyzing every move Marquez had ever made and he carefuly made plans when to return and even the exact weight he'd be at, those 2 pounds be damned! mua hAHAHAHAHAHAAH

Seriously, look at his frame. Since the ODLH fiasco he ended up bulking up a decent amount; but if he had to he could drop some muscle mass as his frame isn't something like Cotto's where he's naturally larger for his weight class.

I'm done here. I really will go have lunch now.

[archermac X]

No, I didn't say that. You're the idiot, sir.

I chose to make a comment hoping to prove this point: Floyd is capable of being hurt and knocked down... so what? If after 40 pro fights all you've got is being really wobbly once and your glove touches the canvas once; the statement of never being knocked down/hurt is false then the message behind them reigns true.

In case you're wondering; the message is just one on a long list of reasons Floyd is a phenom.

At first, I was only suspecting you're an idiot, but now it is really confirmed. YOU'RE TWICE THE IDIOT THAT YOU ARE!! Who in his right mind would think he has proven a point he is trying to prove by giving false arguments? LOL!! In science and mathematics only a single counter-example is enough to disprove a law. I have already disproved what you claimed that Mayweather has never been hurt and has never been knocked down. Now you are saying that still the message behind them reigns true?!!!! LOL!!! What are you?!!!!!

[IMDAZED]

You're right. Floyd was clearly preparing for Marquez ever since his "retirement". He had secretly been training this whole time. Analyzing every move Marquez had ever made and he carefuly made plans when to return and even the exact weight he'd be at, those 2 pounds be damned! mua hAHAHAHAHAHAAH

Seriously, look at his frame. Since the ODLH fiasco he ended up bulking up a decent amount; but if he had to he could drop some muscle mass as his frame isn't something like Cotto's where he's naturally larger for his weight class.

I look at his frame and don't see an ounce of fat for him to drop. Which is probably why he couldn't drop a load to make weight.

As for his time off, if he felt he operated better at another weight, he would've gotten there. Obviously he is at his best at welter,so much so that he can't get under 145. Now it's time for him to fight welters or get the **** out of dodge.

[Dirt E Gomez]

At first, I was only suspecting you're an idiot, but now it is really confirmed. YOU'RE TWICE THE IDIOT THAT YOU ARE!! Who in his right mind would think he has proven a point he is trying to prove by giving false arguments? LOL!! In science and mathematics only a single counter-example is enough to disprove a law. I have already disproved what you claimed that Mayweather has never been hurt and has never been knocked down. Now you are saying that still the message behind them reigns true?!!!! LOL!!! What are you?!!!!!

OK you got me; my pizza isn't done in the oven yet.

I'll say this as clearly as I can...

I NEVER SAID FLOYD WAS NEVER KNOCKED DOWN OR HURT.

That was somebody else. Go reread the thread if you doubt me. I know my facts before I spout off. My argument was that despite the person who made the statement being wrong; the point behind them reigns true. Even though he has been hurt and technically knocked down once; that doesn't suddenly mean he has a weak chin or easy to be knocked down.

[bobbyb363]

Great post. Sometimes I wonder if these fans even realize what they're arguing.

"Did you see Floyd beat up on that old little guy? No one's touching him!..wait, why should he fight THOSE guys? He'll do the same to them! I'd rather watch him do it to the smaller tykes."

And they're pleased. Hilarious.

They should be demanding "FLOYD THE GREAT" to dispatch all these unworthy foes.
A true believer in Floyd should want the same.
If I belived my brother could kick your brothers a## and your brother was talking S###, I woulde be begging my brother to put the "What's happenin" on him.
I just don't get it.

[glennster]

By Lyle Fitzsimmons - Floyd Mayweather Jr. is the devil.

Without dipping my toe into the message boards and other fan forums since the final bell of his fight with Juan Manuel Marquez Saturday night/Sunday morning, I can pretty much assume that as a prevailing sentiment.

But you know what?

He's a real-life Satan incarnate who can, ahem... fight like hell.

In pitching an absolute, complete and comprehensive shutout of Marquez – the critics' pre-comeback choice as the world's No. 2 fighter – in his first ring action since 2007, the Pretty Boy now known as "Money" has answered one question with dominant certainty.

He, and not Manny Pacquiao or any other 21-month stand-in, is the world's best fighter.

Don't believe it?

Watch the tape. Or re-watch it, as the case may be.

And over the course of 36 minutes, find me one thing that says otherwise.

One flaw. One error.

One ***** in the armor that truly indicates – regardless of the fact different styles make different fights – Pacquiao will do any better when he gets his chance next year.

But before you do, though, I'll save you all a little time.

Don't bother.

It doesn't exist.

Nowhere in a stretch of 12 rounds did Marquez do one specific thing or take one specific tack that caused the unflappable 32-year-old even a moment's worth of consternation. [details]

This dude is delusional.