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  • Topdogggbm
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    #21
    Originally posted by Curtis2
    People seem to forget what Bud did in his 147 debut… he made J Horn look like a walking zombie after Horn handled legend Pac-Man
    Not hard to do. Horn was never really good and went down hill after the Paq fight. And even that fight was a wrestling match not a boxing match. Credit for the win. But that doesn’t elevate Horn to be considered a great fighter

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      #22
      Originally posted by boxingitis

      You Think Spene filled the At and T stadium vs Ocampo, *** NO. He needed Mikey Gacia and Danny Garcia, (Big Names) to do that. Your giving Spence too much credit. Crawford vs Thurman, Garcia, Pacman would have done great numbers as well.
      Nobody fills that stadium alone, except for maybe Canelo. This comment is meaningless. Spence don’t, Crawford couldn’t, and neither could either Garcia that you mentioned. It always takes two to tango. WHICH two is what makes the difference. But overall Spence is clearly a bigger box office draw than Crawford. That’s been proven time and time again

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        #23
        So what Stephen Espinoza is basically saying is that the two sides and current negotiations/talks are at a basic stalemate.

        Well If that is certainly the case, then please move on! It’s very apparent at this point and after six long months of negotiations that neither side is willing to give an inch.

        Time is money for the PBC. They don’t need Terence Crawford. Bud Crawford needs them. It’s time to give him a take it or leave it deal and keep things moving.

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          #24
          Originally posted by boxingitis

          If Thurman, Pacman, and Ugas would have fought T Bud, he would have had all those belts. T bud is a 3 division Champion, and 140 UNDISPUTED CHAMP.
          ——/
          But they did NOT.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Curtis2
            People seem to forget what Bud did in his 147 debut… he made J Horn look like a walking zombie after Horn handled legend Pac-Man
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            Nobody forgets that Horn got a dubious win vs PAC and then did zero shït at 147.
            Horn is not a hall of fame boxer nor was ever relevant at 147. You are giving Bud credit for beating a zombie … lol

            You know who else won a belt at 135 (4 belts) and then got beat right after …. Kamboso. Also from Australia like the great Horn.

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            • brettWall
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              #26
              Youtubers aka click baiters had to come up with something. Anything that would make you think they have inside sources.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Oregonian
                ——/
                But they did NOT.
                Ducking

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                  #28
                  When it's pbc fighter vs pbc fighter. Its nothing to negotiate. Haymon manages both fighters so it nobody to negotiate against.

                  Bud isn't a pbc fighter so haymon has to actually make a deal. He can't just give a set number like he does with his fighters.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Topdogggbm

                    Nobody fills that stadium alone, except for maybe Canelo. This comment is meaningless. Spence don’t, Crawford couldn’t, and neither could either Garcia that you mentioned. It always takes two to tango. WHICH two is what makes the difference. But overall Spence is clearly a bigger box office draw than Crawford. That’s been proven time and time again
                    Sure with big names and being a local Texan. Crawford sells out in Omaha.

                    When Spence sells out in Vegas vs a unknown name like Mean Machine and Jose Benavidez, the you can say he is a draw. You are comparing apples and oranges.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by boxingitis

                      You Think Spene filled the At and T stadium vs Ocampo, *** NO. He needed Mikey Gacia and Danny Garcia, (Big Names) to do that. Your giving Spence too much credit. Crawford vs Thurman, Garcia, Pacman would have done great numbers as well.
                      I see you left out errol's most recent fight. 39,000 people came to see spence vs ugas.

                      Ugas isn't a big name

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