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  • Sid-Knee
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    #91
    Originally posted by Willow The Wisp

    For one thing, Wilder blows away or repeatedly knocks down everyone he's ever faced, and DOESN'T get blown away or outboxed by fringe contenders ala Holyfield, Tyson, Lennox, Wladimir and Joshua. Just the facts. As for the 2015 -2025 era? Easily the best since the 1970's. But bigger by 3-4" and 30 lbs.
    Haven't you got anything better to do with your life than to troll on here? Is your life that shlt you haven't got anything else to do? How sad. I actually feel sorry for you.

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    • Sid-Knee
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      #92
      Originally posted by Willow The Wisp

      Lol....are you serious? Wilder's total wins points are best of his era. Whatever your definition of world class is, it implies that you don't follow the game very closely. All of Wilders opponents over the past 8 years were top 5% of active heavyweights. Every one of them. Look that up yourself using the tools available to us all. And form better opinions. Not much to ask. No offense.
      Tell me about each and every world class fighter Wilder beat? I don't care about some warped system that literally makes no sense.

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        #93
        Originally posted by Willow The Wisp

        Not knocking Haye. Good fighter, nice fellow. But while Haye was demonstrativly chinny, Wilder is no less than one of the 4 hardest hitting human beings who ever lived, and he hit the mark against every man he ever fought. That's a daunting formula for the Hayemaker.
        Wilder is made of glass. Haye had a very good chin. The skills and power of Haye will be the deciding factor. Not Wilder and his limited ability. It's a mismatch. Wilder didn't even jump on the version who came back after being out for years. Wilder could have made a lot more money with Haye than what he was facing. But he still wasn't confident of beating that version of him.

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          #94
          Originally posted by Willow The Wisp

          Eddie Hearn will probably never let the gifted but fragile Joshua anywhere near a power house like Deontay Wilder, at least not until he is certain that he's gotten the last bit of earning power out of his fighter. Wilder is the the absolute perfect WRONG style matchup for Joshua, whose string of losses has by now relegated him to the 4th or 5th best heavyweight of his era. Which given the strength of this era is nothing to sneeze at. Wilder has faults and flaws? They all do if they're made of flesh & bone. The thing about Deontay Wilder is that he's got the great equalizer, and he will need just one shot to put Joshua sound asleep for a ten count-plus. This is a fact not lost on Eddie Hearn, who was telling anyone who was listening that Helenius was going to win last week.
          Wilder is a bum who can't fight or box. He isn't a powerhouse.

          Eddie won't let him near the bum? Is that why he offered 100 Mill to him which has never been done in history when looking at each of their market values? And yet the bum still ran. There was a rematch clause and the offer of having it in the US. Never has a big star done anything of the sort.

          Wilder is made for anyone who is fresh and has a bit of ability. It's why Wilder ducked them all.

          Wilder has as many losses you fool. Difference is, AJ unified 3 titles and has beaten world class fighters. Wilder hasn't done either of those.

          Eddie didn't pick Helenius to beat Wilder. But hey, you enjoy spending time with this madness. It's clearly your intellectual level.

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          • Sid-Knee
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            #95
            Originally posted by ELPacman

            Do you honestly think Fury is scared of AJ? The dude has been handled thoroughly by smaller opponents with no where near the reach Fury has.

            If I had to bet my house, Wilder is not scared of AJ, Wilder is not scared of Fury. Fury is not scared of Wilder, Fury is not scared of AJ. AJ is scared of Wilder, AJ is scared of Fury. Period. Losing to either opponent would have reduced his stock tremendously when it was at an all time high.

            At this point, AJ should just go for it. He's got nothing to lose. Nobody considers him great anymore or that he's as magical as it appeared in the past. The Ruiz thrashing really took away his invincibility. On that note, Wilder has nothing to lose either at this point. The difference is, Wilder will make a fight with anyone, AJ is still highly picky.
            AJ is scared of the two fighters who have been offered the fight repeatedly only to run each time? They're not scared of AJ even though they're scared to face him in a ring? Oh right.

            If you believe Fury or Wilder in all of this. You're the kind of backwards they're looking for. But you'd have to be REALLY backwards to buy what has been brutally exposed.

            Enjoy the Chisora fight which doesn't have any kind of clock ticking on it when it comes to getting everything sorted out.

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              #96
              Originally posted by SugarAnt05

              youve partially proved my point as the list is hella weak. Most of those guys are similar or worse than the guys already on Wilders resume. We also cant ignore the “cold war” between promoters that was going on way before Wilder became popular. The good fighters you mentioned were already tied up with fighrs against other champs .
              Yeah, they're so weak Wilder decided to take on absolute garbage instead of the best the division had to offer. Wilder the narcissist thought it would be better if the boxing world thought of him as a coward instead.

              Could you please point out which of these fighters are worse to those Wilder has beaten?

              Yeah, the "Cold war" was such that they all fought each other but Wilder didn't. Funny that.

              As you were.

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                #97
                Originally posted by TheIronMike

                YOU ARE MENTALLY CHALLENGED. YOU ARE AN IMBICILE. YOUR IQ LIKELY RATES BELOW ROOM TEMPERATURE STANDARDS.

                I recommend a deep dive into 80's HW history.
                You'll find pretty much all on this thread have low IQ's and are clear imbeciles. F3cking delusional doesn't even begin to cover it.

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                • SugarAnt05
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Sid-Knee

                  Yeah, they're so weak Wilder decided to take on absolute garbage instead of the best the division had to offer. Wilder the narcissist thought it would be better if the boxing world thought of him as a coward instead.

                  Could you please point out which of these fighters are worse to those Wilder has beaten?

                  Yeah, the "Cold war" was such that they all fought each other but Wilder didn't. Funny that.

                  As you were.
                  Yeah…sounds like you just dont like Wilder and thats cool. Good day sir

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                  • Sid-Knee
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by SugarAnt05

                    Yeah…sounds like you just dont like Wilder and thats cool. Good day sir
                    Could you please point out which of these fighters are worse to those Wilder has beaten? What's wrong with this question that has you deflecting?

                    Why did all the Heaves fight each other when being with different promoters but Wilder didn't?

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by Sid-Knee

                      AJ is scared of the two fighters who have been offered the fight repeatedly only to run each time? They're not scared of AJ even though they're scared to face him in a ring? Oh right.

                      If you believe Fury or Wilder in all of this. You're the kind of backwards they're looking for. But you'd have to be REALLY backwards to buy what has been brutally exposed.

                      Enjoy the Chisora fight which doesn't have any kind of clock ticking on it when it comes to getting everything sorted out.
                      I don't want the Chisora fight and have zero interest in it. With that said, you have to read the body language of both fighters in numerous interviews. As far as Wilder-AJ, nothing convinces me more of the truth than seeing Wilder on a candid radio show where they told him, AJ will only fight him if he gets to 50-0. Wilder's face immediately looked in shock like, whaaat? Then they said, they were only playing around and Wilder cracked out laughing like, oh thank god. That's how much he was trying to get that fight done at that time.

                      On the contrary, you had AJ being asked on another interview about Wilder and he had this worried look on his face and said that facing Wilder would not determine who he was or his career. Total opposite personalities man. If you can't see that, I can only assume you're blind to go with "your" guy. I never hated AJ either. He's generally in exciting matchups. I just never bought into his hype.
                      Last edited by ELPacman; 10-20-2022, 09:04 AM.

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