PBC's contract with Fox is almost over. What happens next?

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  • just the facts
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    #21
    Originally posted by Uppercutt Kidd
    If they would’ve worked with other stables PBC would be ok. Cant really blame Fox if this is true because Al didn’t deliver the best fights but he had some good ones. Overpaying the boxers wasn’t smart for the long run
    While you have a point about not delivering the best fights, you’re off base about PBC not working with other stables. They’ve worked many times with both Top Rank and DAZN. I literally can’t think of even once that Top Rank and DAZN worked together. Can you?

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      #22
      Originally posted by The Devil Knows Boxing
      Protected Boring Cowards deserves to get dropped.
      Yet another dumb post from NSBs village idiot. Another “boxing fan” hoping for the demise of boxing.

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        #23
        Originally posted by YOU WILL LOSE

        yeah they move from CBS get booted, NBC get booted, FOX, get booted, bounce TV remember that gone,HBO, gone.

        since when is not talking to the media a good trait for a promoter?
        No promoter throughout history has talked to the media more than Don King. Where’s he at?

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          #24
          Originally posted by just the fat

          Yet another dumb post
          That's a compliment coming from the official Boxingscene Idiot.

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            #25
            Originally posted by The Devil Knows Boxing

            That's a compliment coming from the official Boxingscene Idiot.
            Yet more second grade ignorance from NSBs village idiot/liar/coward.

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              #26
              - - After an Assessment, PBC gonna start throwing fighters under the bus.

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                #27
                Originally posted by paulf

                I'm not sure what your argument here is - no promoter in boxing has as extensive a track record for getting his fighters paid and taken care of, usually utterly overpaid, like Haymon does.

                His notable fighters fight one time a year, often easy fights, and are overpaid to do so. What a terrible setup for the fighters.
                That was when they had the coffers of that Raddle n Reed investment,those days are long gone. PBC is up shiet creek without paddle if they can't land another deal with the size of thier stable. Thier fighters aren't fighting once a year because they choose so,lets not kid ourselves. They're fighting once a year because FOX isnt willing to cover the tab and Showtime's boxing budget simply cannot keep that stable afloat alone. Look at Wilders gauranteed purse for Helenius and no,there's no longer those Haymon "back alley checks". Most every PBC fight is now thrown on ppv because of necessity, period.


                Last edited by Sctrojan; 10-05-2022, 10:09 PM.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by just the facts

                  While you have a point about not delivering the best fights, you’re off base about PBC not working with other stables. They’ve worked many times with both Top Rank and DAZN. I literally can’t think of even once that Top Rank and DAZN worked together. Can you?
                  Only one off the top of my head was when Maurice Hooker (who was DAZN, can't recall if it was GBP or Matchroom) fought Jose Ramirez (Top Rank).

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                    #29
                    Honestly if PBC goes under it might be good. The industry needs consolidation. There are wayyyy to many promoters and networks.

                    Also, an APP like DAZN will never work. Most people dont get that app so they cant discover new fighters. Its not like flipping through the tv channels. Streaming apps make it hard to find new content. You typically watch what you search for. There is no flipping channels.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Sheikh
                      The Fox and PBC deal is only good for a few more months. It looks likely Fox will be ending the deal and not renewing. Fox has not really invested in boxing. I understand that PBC has been putting a lot of stuff on Pay Per View now because Fox will no longer cover expenses.

                      Showtime is still in boxing for now although I have long speculated they would leave as they don't get much ratings from it and it takes a lot of budget that they can otherwise get a better ROI on, like TV shows.

                      So 2 questions:

                      1. What happens if Fox ends the deal? PBC has lots of fighters and a lack of dates.

                      2. What if BOTH Fox and Showtime leave boxing in the next year? I doubt other TV channels will come in with big bucks to make a deal with PBC. Everyone has been leaving boxing or is close to the way out. HBO got out, Fox will probably leave, DAZN has been losing money hand over fist, what happens in this scenario? PBC has way too many fighters that are overpaid and a lack of dates.
                      That's not exactly true.

                      The FOX deal is already over, technically.

                      They are doing PPV events because they owe a certain amount of PPVs per year to FOX as part of their multi-year deal - and for whatever reason FOX is demanding PBC makes good on the PPVs they are contractually owed. Don't be surprised if Spence-Crawford lands on FOX.

                      I doubt Showtime leaves boxing.

                      Paramount+ - the parent company of SHO - wants live sports. There is talk of boxing and Bellator (owned by Paramount) having events that are exclusive only to Paramount+.

                      FOX leaving gives SHO a big edge to pressure Haymon to offer them better fights.

                      Also, Amazon is also looking to add more live sports and they are interested in boxing. The recently added MMA company ONE for more live sports content.

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