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  • #31
    Originally posted by Leicesterage View Post

    FYI:

    Devin Haney accepted ALL terms as B-Side, went and made history, becoming an A-Side.

    That's all smart fans are asking Crawford to do.

    Go in there on fight night and prove what you say - then you can call money demands all you care to.

    Until then...it's frankly not worth the waste of time he's doing. Spence has THREE of the belts. He calls the shots. Plus Crawford's ask to "approve" expenses is a joke. B-Sides don't "approve" anything.
    I hear all of that. However, I'm not going to tell a fighter that has accomplished a good amount in the sport what he should accept. Do I want to see the fight? Absolutely! But Crawford is the one that is fighting, we're all speaking from the outside without any of the sacrifice.

    Fans in all sports tend to go too far into a weird place where they feel entitled. It's wack.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Dallas' 4 Eva View Post

      There's no proof of that. Plant always pulled in great ratings on his Fox cards, very similar to Crawford's numbers on ESPN. As far as PPV's Plant's PPV fight with Canelo sold more than the two thar followed it.
      I'm sorry, before the Canelo fight where and when was Plant this "Big Stand Alone Draw" what PPV did Plant Headline before the Canelo fight? The fact that Bud was Drawing Similar and I think even BETTER numbers over on ESPN with a Cable Network compared to Plant fighting on a huge FOX Network which is Free...thanks for proving my point, nothing personal but come on are we really going to argue that Plant is a Bigger Stand Alone Draw than Bud? Same Plant that is going to be a Co-Feature his next fight, not even the Headliner

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      • #33
        Originally posted by elfag View Post




        Its the biggest fight in boxing for boxing fans, the guys here who spend hours on boxing forums. that doesnt equal massive PPV sales. Canelo gets paid waaay more because he generates way more sales and casuals buy his fights. nobody even knows who the *** terrence crawford is outside of lifelong boxing dweebs like us.


        all the guys at work all watch NFL and i only know one guy who even knows some boxers, even MMA is way more popular.
        Not disagreeing at all and I've posted repeated that I don't think this is some "Super Fight" not even close and I think it Flops on PPV as far as Buys because neither fighter is interesting, neither has much of a personality and Casuals don't give AF about either fighter

        Tank vs Ryan Garcia is likely tracking BETTER than this fight as far as Projected PPV Buys and Algorithm. They're generating more Interest and more of a Buzz and the Talks of their Club Incident recently is only building it up even MORE

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        • #34
          Originally posted by sicko View Post

          because Bud is a bigger Draw than Plant I mean what are we talking about here
          If you say so. What are Sr talking about here? What has Bud ever sold to make you think that?

          The point is, there was a much bigger pie to split with Canelo than there will be with Spence and Crawford, hence the $10 mill guarantee.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Leicesterage View Post

            FYI:

            Devin Haney accepted ALL terms as B-Side, went and made history, becoming an A-Side.

            That's all smart fans are asking Crawford to do.

            Go in there on fight night and prove what you say - then you can call money demands all you care to.

            Until then...it's frankly not worth the waste of time he's doing. Spence has THREE of the belts. He calls the shots. Plus Crawford's ask to "approve" expenses is a joke. B-Sides don't "approve" anything.
            Was Devin Haney an established champion and agree to no guarantee with the possibility he makes no money for the biggest fight of his career? And Devin Haney is still not the A side. Kambosis is still making more than him for the rematch,

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            • #36
              Originally posted by SweetPbfAli View Post
              I hope some of you never negotiate on behalf of someone else. Sounds like some of you would just accept anything and be happy.
              They would flip the script totally, its easy in here they not looking at their own bank account. We are all in the dark as to whats really going on behind closed doors that's why I don't like to rag on the fighters as so many things needs to come together and satisfy a lot of people. it ain't easy, although it can be.
              SweetPbfAli SweetPbfAli likes this.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by tritium_arma View Post

                Was Devin Haney an established champion
                Yes he was. It's just NSB who didn't accept it and ran with Teofimo's narrative about being unified when he wasn't.



                Originally posted by tritium_arma View Post
                and agree to no guarantee with the possibility he makes no money for the biggest fight of his career?

                Yes he did. He accepted EVERYTHING.


                Originally posted by tritium_arma View Post
                And Devin Haney is still not the A side. Kambosis is still making more than him for the rematch,
                His name is the top billing. "CM Punk" has a higher take because the rematch was part of the first fight contract terms.

                Bottom line:

                Devin Haney accepted ALL terms (Kambosos)
                Kambosos accepted ALL terms (Teo)
                Teofimo accepted ALL terms (Loma)
                Rolly accepted ALL terms (Tank)
                Usyk accepted ALL terms (Joshua 1)
                Ruiz accepted ALL terms on short notice (Joshua 1)
                Porter accepted ALL terms (Crawford)
                Mikey accepted ALL terms (Spence)
                Helenius accepted ALL terms (Wilder)

                Crawford no longer has an excuse. His former promoter killed any possible leverage by exposing his lack of drawing power. He has to accept ALL terms.
                Last edited by Combat Talk Radio; 10-01-2022, 06:02 PM.

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                • #38
                  So crawford should take the fight for free? He's agreeing the b-side already. He's getting paid off the NET not GROSS. Without knowing where the expenses are going to and how much are being spend, he can essentially get zero for the fight.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Kzbox View Post

                    It's the biggest fight in boxing for boxing fans not casuals it's intriguing for us who actually know of these guys as it's a true 50/50 in terms of casual appeal it has very little, You only have so much value and theres only so much money in the pot he can't be demanding ludicrous money because he's not a huge PPV star on his own and needs Spence. If he really wants the fight he should take 40 - 50% simple as.
                    Hes already said he will take 35 percent , problem is Haymon will not be transparent with the guarantee.
                    will not show Bub what his guarantee is.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Leicesterage View Post

                      Yes he was. It's just NSB who didn't accept it and ran with Teofimo's narrative about being unified when he wasn't.






                      Yes he did. He accepted EVERYTHING.




                      His name is the top billing. "CM Punk" has a higher take because the rematch was part of the first fight contract terms.

                      Bottom line:

                      Devin Haney accepted ALL terms (Kambosos)
                      Kambosos accepted ALL terms (Teo)
                      Teofimo accepted ALL terms (Loma)
                      Rolly accepted ALL terms (Tank)
                      Usyk accepted ALL terms (Joshua 1)
                      Ruiz accepted ALL terms on short notice (Joshua 1)
                      Porter accepted ALL terms (Crawford)
                      Mikey accepted ALL terms (Spence)
                      Helenius accepted ALL terms (Wilder)

                      Crawford no longer has an excuse. His former promoter killed any possible leverage by exposing his lack of drawing power. He has to accept ALL terms.
                      Noone cares what you say cause your obviously a Bud hater.
                      Any chance you get you mention him in a negative way.

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