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  • Terrence Crawford is the worst B-side “Diva” in boxing history

    This is the same guy that got 50k ppv buys for a 3 belt unification. and his most ppv buys is 135k ppv buys vs Porter.

    Meanwhile Spence is drawing an average ppv buys of 250k buys.

    He has 3 belts and Bud has 1. Bud has no leverage. Pbc and Spence can freeze him out if he continues to be a diva in negotiations. Pbc still has 4 guys who would sell on ppv vs Spence in Thurman, Broner, Ennis, and Jermell.

    If they freeze this diva out, what’s next for Bud? No network wants him after he sued bob arum and top rank after giving him 5 million purse vs Kavaliuskas.
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    Shouldn't the man get paid accordingly if people are running around saying this is the biggest fight in boxing? They just paid Canelo and Plant all that damn money for their Undisputed fight, not saying Spence and Bud should get that but shouldn't they get what Plant Made as the MINIMUM Guarantee maybe even a little more



    nobody believes that "You Don't Have The Money" when you was just offering Canelo a Historic Crazy 2-3 fight Deal to fight Charlo, Spence, Benavidez or whatever

    Pay these fighters according, nobody is "Afraid" nobody is "Ducking" nobody is "Pricing Themselves Out" I just think they're looking saying "Wait A Damn Minute You Was Just Offering Canelo All That Money What About Us..." and I can understand that honestly. Fans need to STFU, that is like someone coming and telling us what Hourly Wages "You Should Accept"

    Negotiations still on going let them sort it out
    Last edited by sicko; 09-30-2022, 10:07 PM.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by sicko View Post
      Shouldn't the man get paid accordingly if people are running around saying this is the biggest fight in boxing? They just paid Canelo and Plant all that damn money for their Undisputed fight, not saying Spence and Bud should get that but shouldn't they get what Plant Made as the MINIMUM Guarantee maybe even a little more



      nobody believes that "You Don't Have The Money" when you was just offering Canelo a Historic Crazy 2-3 fight Deal to fight Charlo, Spence, Benavidez or whatever

      Pay these fighters according, nobody is "Afraid" nobody is "Ducking" nobody is "Pricing Themselves Out" I just think they're looking saying "Wait A Damn Minute You Was Just Offering Canelo All That Money What About Us..." and I can understand that honestly. Fans need to STFU, that is like someone coming and telling us what Hourly Wages "You Should Accept"

      Negotiations still on going let them sort it out
      Canelo has consistently put up numbers on PPV where as anyone who has ever done business with Crawford has consistently lost money. However both sides will come to an agreement eventually.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by sicko View Post
        Shouldn't the man get paid accordingly if people are running around saying this is the biggest fight in boxing? They just paid Canelo and Plant all that damn money for their Undisputed fight, not saying Spence and Bud should get that but shouldn't they get what Plant Made as the MINIMUM Guarantee maybe even a little more



        nobody believes that "You Don't Have The Money" when you was just offering Canelo a Historic Crazy 2-3 fight Deal to fight Charlo, Spence, Benavidez or whatever

        Pay these fighters according, nobody is "Afraid" nobody is "Ducking" nobody is "Pricing Themselves Out" I just think they're looking saying "Wait A Damn Minute You Was Just Offering Canelo All That Money What About Us..." and I can understand that honestly. Fans need to STFU, that is like someone coming and telling us what Hourly Wages "You Should Accept"

        Negotiations still on going let them sort it out
        Exactly this....Bud and errol can get done for half of that.

        Al Haymon owes it to errol to make his legacy fight.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by sicko View Post
          Shouldn't the man get paid accordingly if people are running around saying this is the biggest fight in boxing? They just paid Canelo and Plant all that damn money for their Undisputed fight, not saying Spence and Bud should get that but shouldn't they get what Plant Made as the MINIMUM Guarantee maybe even a little more



          nobody believes that "You Don't Have The Money" when you was just offering Canelo a Historic Crazy 2-3 fight Deal to fight Charlo, Spence, Benavidez or whatever

          Pay these fighters according, nobody is "Afraid" nobody is "Ducking" nobody is "Pricing Themselves Out" I just think they're looking saying "Wait A Damn Minute You Was Just Offering Canelo All That Money What About Us..." and I can understand that honestly. Fans need to STFU, that is like someone coming and telling us what Hourly Wages "You Should Accept"

          Negotiations still on going let them sort it out
          It's the biggest fight in boxing for boxing fans not casuals it's intriguing for us who actually know of these guys as it's a true 50/50 in terms of casual appeal it has very little, You only have so much value and theres only so much money in the pot he can't be demanding ludicrous money because he's not a huge PPV star on his own and needs Spence. If he really wants the fight he should take 40 - 50% simple as.

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          • #6
            It’s going to be highly embarrassing, and highly typical of our sport if we don’t get this fight soon!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by sicko View Post
              Shouldn't the man get paid accordingly if people are running around saying this is the biggest fight in boxing? They just paid Canelo and Plant all that damn money for their Undisputed fight, not saying Spence and Bud should get that but shouldn't they get what Plant Made as the MINIMUM Guarantee maybe even a little more



              nobody believes that "You Don't Have The Money" when you was just offering Canelo a Historic Crazy 2-3 fight Deal to fight Charlo, Spence, Benavidez or whatever

              Pay these fighters according, nobody is "Afraid" nobody is "Ducking" nobody is "Pricing Themselves Out" I just think they're looking saying "Wait A Damn Minute You Was Just Offering Canelo All That Money What About Us..." and I can understand that honestly. Fans need to STFU, that is like someone coming and telling us what Hourly Wages "You Should Accept"

              Negotiations still on going let them sort it out
              There is no comparison here. Canelo puts butts in the seats at high prices in Vegas, brings in big sponsorship money to the event, and big money in overseas markets.
              Neither Bud nor Spence is on that level.
              Haymon is hedging his bets here. If the fight does a good PPV buy rate then Bud can get paid well. But giving both guys a big guarantee is a risk he’s not willing to take.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Kzbox View Post

                It's the biggest fight in boxing for boxing fans not casuals it's intriguing for us who actually know of these guys as it's a true 50/50 in terms of casual appeal it has very little, You only have so much value and theres only so much money in the pot he can't be demanding ludicrous money because he's not a huge PPV star on his own and needs Spence. If he really wants the fight he should take 40 - 50% simple as.
                He has the right to walk away from a fight if he feels it is not Financially Worth it does he not, just like we ALL can walk away from a JOB we feel is no Financially worth it, the only difference is, nobody is going to say we "Ducked" A Bad Job LMFAO

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by sicko View Post

                  He has the right to walk away from a fight if he feels it is not Financially Worth it does he not, just like we ALL can walk away from a JOB we feel is no Financially worth it, the only difference is, nobody is going to say we "Ducked" A Bad Job LMFAO
                  Well it implies he doesn't have faith in himself for that fight because no matter what it will be more money than he has ever got in his life so far so if he doesn't fight spence for millions then fights a no name/average fighter for 200k its pretty evident what's up. It's risk vs reward and he knows Spence is a real risk to his 0. I have no stake in this fight btw i think Spence will win but i'm not a "fan" of either guy but they are both very good fighters.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by QballLobo View Post

                    There is no comparison here. Canelo puts butts in the seats at high prices in Vegas, brings in big sponsorship money to the event, and big money in overseas markets.
                    Neither Bud nor Spence is on that level.
                    Haymon is hedging his bets here. If the fight does a good PPV buy rate then Bud can get paid well. But giving both guys a big guarantee is a risk he’s not willing to take.
                    in my Original Post:
                    not saying Spence and Bud should get that
                    NOBODY is saying that they should get Canelo money of course not, however, what Plant was paid for Undisputed, Guarantees should be Close to that if not more

                    If Not then Bud has every right to say "No Thank You!" while fans will kick, cry and complain and call him a duck but come on, I cannot expect that man to make the same or even Less than what he made in previous fights vs the Likes of Shawn Porter to somehow now turn around and fight Spence for Less of the Same as that Guarantee was? Hell No

                    So fans need to understand, when fighters turn down fights sometimes Financially just didn't make sense to fight this guys for a Certain Amount of money when they have the option to fight a Less Tougher opponents for ALMOST the same money

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