Who did Vitali Klitschko bear? He’s in the Hall so the standards are not that high… He was 0-2 against his 2 best opponents…
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Originally posted by ryanramshaw@hotmail.com View PostI agree, but either is Joshua. If Joshua had the balls to accept the $50M flat fee that Wilders team offered, Wilder would have been closer to the Hall of fame after knocking Joshua clean out in the first two rounds. Hearn knew this of course, which is why they turned a career high payday down.Oldskoolg likes this.
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The issue with hof today is that boxing today is watered down so much with all the alphabelts.
On top of that fighter's avoid each other like Wilder & Kanye in 18 (Kanye) 19 (Wilder turns down the dazn offer) happy to reign along side one another preaching A-side status, stalling the division with contracts & clauses.
By old standards definitely neither of them but today if they wait out Fury & Usyk an easy alphabelt will be available & who knows.
Fury yes because he's beaten 2 world number 1s for all the belts in theyre own back yards as the underdog & had the biggest trilogy since Bowe Holyfield in the 90s. Usyk even more deserving, a true warrior & a breath of fresh air willing to take on everyone.
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Wilder would have to make a comeback of epic proportion to honestly be considered for the HOF. He's fought Fury three times, so after a confidence builder fight with Helenius, he can no longer go back to beating up lesser opponents and claim HOF status. He'll never beat Fury, so he's off the list. IMO, he'll need to beat Ruiz, Joshua, Joyce and finally, Usyk. Wins against them would definitely make a stronger argument for him to be considered an ATG. That's a tall order though and I don't think he can, nor will he even try to do it.
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Hearn has never had a kind or accurate word to say about Deontay Wilder, and let's consider why. His Father's Boxing enterprise was rebuilt by the promotion of Anthony Joshua, one of Wilders two counter-claiments for the title of World's Champion. Working to defame Wilder is simply business. But in 2022, the career trajectories of Wilder/Fury and Joshua have gone in opposite directions. The latter two both covered themselves in glory with three historic battles while Joshua, even before he could step in with one of the other two kings of his era, became a frequent loser; dropping fights badly to men that he was heavily favored to beat. Of course both Fury and Wilder are Hall of Fame shoe-ins! They co-lead the best era of Heavyweights since the 1970's, and there are, in point of fact; only a small handful of current IBHOF inductees who might hope to defeat either one of them. As for Joshua? Let's see if he'll sign to fight Fury or Wilder, and then see how well he aquits himself.Last edited by Willow The Wisp; 09-29-2022, 12:23 PM.dkamds likes this.
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Lol, guess he’s given up on the Wilder fight.
Eddie sounds two things, here: quite bitter and quite right, about a cpl of things, at least:
Wilder has a trash resume, the others aren’t a hell of a lot better, and Usyk should be HOF for plundering HW in his 3rd fight, in his opponents’ backyard, and after wiping CW out, again, in his opponents’ backyard each time.
Where Hearn might be off is that I once saw somebody at school try a people’s elbow in the middle of a fight, and I’m sure that guy is about the standard of the Hall of Fame these days.
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Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View PostHearn has never had a kind or accurate word to say about Deontay Wilder, and let's consider why. His Father's Boxing enterprise was rebuilt by the promotion of Anthony Joshua, one of Wilders two counter-claiments for the title of World's Champion. Working to defame Wilder is simply business. But in 2022, the career trajectories of Wilder/Fury and Joshua have gone in opposite directions. The latter two both covered themselves in glory with three historic battles while Joshua, even before he could step in with one of the other two kings of his era, became a frequent loser; dropping fights badly to men that he was heavily favored to beat. Of course both Fury and Wilder are Hall of Fame shoe-ins! They co-lead the best era of Heavyweights since the 1970's, and there are, in point of fact; only a small handful of current IBHOF inductees who might hope to defeat either one of them. As for Joshua? Let's see if he'll sign to fight Fury or Wilder, and then see how well he aquits himself.
I see your point, but really, Joshua’s been frozen out by being caught in the crossfire of the great transatlantic promotional wars of the late 2010s, and that’s all she wrote.
Hearn said he was gonna blow America apart, and those other promoters said they’d be damned if some upstart guy and an upstart streaming service were gonna eat into that sweet U.S. revenue.
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Originally posted by Liondw View PostWell, Hearn is right on this one, Wilder ain't no hall of famer.
But it's not that important, just have a good or great career and make lots of money. If you're recognised by peers, that's great. I can maybe say Wilder's right hand power is one of the best, although not more power than Foreman, Lewis, Shavers, Liston and 'Iron' Mike.
Don't forget Marciano, Dempsey and Joe Louis who could hit pretty hard as well, among others.
But Deontay has some hall of fame right hand power no doubt.
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