Comments Thread For: Wilder's Coach Does Not Rule Out Joshua Shocking Fury, Explains Why

[AmpMcv]

Well, Joshua does have a puncher's chance.

Very few think he can win, and Fury is rightly known as the best heavyweight since Lewis.

However, AJ would be dangerous, no pressure on him like with the Usyk fights, no expectation, and would swing away, as they say. A burden has been lifted off his shoulders.

Yeah, you can tell by his post-fight rant. He's free as a bird now.

[PBR Streetgang]

I think AJ does have more than just a punchers chance should the fight happen. He's not as bad as some make him out to be and Fury isn't as invincible as some claim.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Everyone who is sane realises that Joshua has no chance other than a punchers chance , he's not going school Fury or out box him , please understand this!

Tyson Fury is big favorite. But? Fury vs Wilder III. Tyson Fury was making many mistakes and was all over the place. He cannot make those same mistakes vs Joshua without being ****** up. If Wilder could of just come straight down the middle with his punches at times, he may well of knocked Fury down even more or got him out of there etc.

Joshua hits with good power, and can vary his punches. But I expect Fury to know this, and therefore? A different type of Fury will turn up.

Wilder's aggression, and power with a decent Jab. Seemed to be enough to bridge the gap and negate Fury's apparently superior boxing skills. In the third fight Fury and Wilder did not look levels apart, they could both find each other and hit each other 'And they were both making plenty of forced and unforced errors'.

It was a great match up in terms of passion, competitiveness and aggression. But skill for skill, it was not a high level fight.

Usyk vs Joshua was a higher level fight skill for skill. That is what is intriguing, Joshua has just went 24 rounds with a super elite technical fighter. It has been a long time since Tyson Fury has fought at elite level skill for skill, you have to go back to the Wladimir Kiltschko fight.

Fury's not 248 pounds anymore, he is not training under Peter Fury 'Fury is no longer The Riddler'.

Still if Tyson Fury is as good as his hardcore fans make out? Joshua should not win a round, and definitely should not survive the full 12 rounds.

[joe strong]

Anyone can see clear as day Joshua’s aura has been gone since he got beat up by Andy Ruiz. The thing with Wilder is he throws bombs fast & from different angles. Joshua is pretty basic like Klitschko. I don’t think Joshua has anything in his tool box that Fury hasn’t seen. I have it 90/10 in favour of Fury. Joshua looks more & more like Frank Bruno every time I watch him fight. Fury is bigger, faster, has a better ring IQ & has a bigger heart. He is arrogant like Lennox Lewis so there is always the chance he overlooks Joshua but I think other than a puncher’s chance AJ doesn’t have the skills or mindset to beat Fury. This is HW boxing & one punch can end it so nothing is a sure thing. Michael Bentt & Buster Douglas proved that…

[bullydean]

Tyson Fury is big favorite. But? Fury vs Wilder III. Tyson Fury was making many mistakes and was all over the place. He cannot make those same mistakes vs Joshua without being ****** up. If Wilder could of just come straight down the middle with his punches at times, he may well of knocked Fury down even more or got him out of there etc.

Joshua hits with good power, and can vary his punches. But I expect Fury to know this, and therefore? A different type of Fury will turn up.

Wilder's aggression, and power with a decent Jab. Seemed to be enough to bridge the gap and negate Fury's apparently superior boxing skills. In the third fight Fury and Wilder did not look levels apart, they could both find each other and hit each other 'And they were both making plenty of forced and unforced errors'.

It was a great match up in terms of passion, competitiveness and aggression. But skill for skill, it was not a high level fight.

Usyk vs Joshua was a higher level fight skill for skill. That is what is intriguing, Joshua has just went 24 rounds with a super elite technical fighter. It has been a long time since Tyson Fury has fought at elite level skill for skill, you have to go back to the Wladimir Kiltschko fight.

Fury's not 248 pounds anymore, he is not training under Peter Fury 'Fury is no longer The Riddler'.

Still if Tyson Fury is as good as his hardcore fans make out? Joshua should not win a round, and definitely should not survive the full 12 rounds.

Why are you already coping? "Joshua should not win a round, and definitely should not survive the full 12 rounds". If Fury wins, he wins regardless if it's one sided or not.

The hate boner for Fury is strange. People don't give AJ a chance because he isn't a good boxer and Fury actually has the power to stop him or stun him unlike Usyk.

Nobody actually believes Fury will KO AJ in the first round and very few people think AJ won't win a round.
It's just very unlikely that AJ will win or be competitive.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Why are you already coping? "Joshua should not win a round, and definitely should not survive the full 12 rounds". If Fury wins, he wins regardless if it's one sided or not.

The hate boner for Fury is strange. People don't give AJ a chance because he isn't a good boxer and Fury actually has the power to stop him or stun him unlike Usyk.

Nobody actually believes Fury will KO AJ in the first round and very few people think AJ won't win a round.
It's just very unlikely that AJ will win or be competitive.

Tyson Fury believes that he will take Joshua out himself inside 6-8 rounds. For many years, Fury's hardcore fans have been telling everyone what Joshua cannot do 'And how bad of a fighter he is'.

Well the big dance is nearly upon us, and Fury has his opportunity to prove just how much better he is than Joshua 'In a quick turn around fight'.

But I have noticed, all the niceties and compliments coming Joshua's way from a number of Fury's fans 'They are all back tracking in their intensity'. All that is really is stage 1 of their backside's going 'That is essentially what that behavior is all about'.

Me personally as I have said on other threads. I cannot make a detailed prediction right now, and I am unsure how both fighters styles will look against one another. This is mainly down to Fury not actually fighting at elite or world class level hardly. Deontay Wilder was a elite level fight, but skill for skill 'He does not have the skill set overall of a elite level fighter' No disrespect to Wilder, because I rate him and he does have a good Jab.

Kiltschko and Wallin are the best technical boxers Fury has faced since he entered onto the world stage. Apart from that he has mostly fought a domestic and high European level. Anthony Joshua in comparison has fought at ether world class or elite level for a very long time now.

If Fury is as good as his hardcore fans claim he is? Anthony Joshua does not win a round, or survive the full 12 rounds. That has been the narrative created by Fury and his hardcore fans etc.

[bullydean]

Tyson Fury believes that he will take Joshua out himself inside 6-8 rounds. For many years, Fury's hardcore fans have been telling everyone what Joshua cannot do 'And how bad of a fighter he is'.

Well the big dance is nearly upon us, and Fury has his opportunity to prove just how much better he is than Joshua 'In a quick turn around fight'.

But I have noticed, all the niceties and compliments coming Joshua's way from a number of Fury's fans 'They are all back tracking in their intensity'. All that is really is stage 1 of their backside's going 'That is essentially what that behavior is all about'.

Me personally as I have said on other threads. I cannot make a detailed prediction right now, and I am unsure how both fighters styles will look against one another. This is mainly down to Fury not actually fighting at elite or world class level hardly. Deontay Wilder was a elite level fight, but skill for skill 'He does not have the skill set overall of a elite level fighter' No disrespect to Wilder, because I rate him and he does have a good Jab.

Kiltschko and Wallin are the best technical boxers Fury has faced since he entered onto the world stage. Apart from that he has mostly fought a domestic and high European level. Anthony Joshua in comparison has fought at ether world class or elite level for a very long time now.

If Fury is as good as his hardcore fans claim he is? Anthony Joshua does not win a round, or survive the full 12 rounds. That has been the narrative created by Fury and his hardcore fans etc.

If AJ is as good as you claim then Fury shouldn't have a easy fight according to your logic?

You're obviously already coping because the fight isn't even signed yet and you're already crying saying Fury isn't good because he most likely won't win easily or quickly.

There has been no narrative Fury has just proven he's a tough nut to crack whether it's brawling or boxing. To say Fury will most likely win isn't a understatement regardless the rounds it takes to beat an opponent.

Also Fury demolished Whyte after the Wilder trilogy. Even though it took 6 rounds Fury easily beat him.

[thack]

Tyson Fury is big favorite. But? Fury vs Wilder III. Tyson Fury was making many mistakes and was all over the place. He cannot make those same mistakes vs Joshua without being ****** up. If Wilder could of just come straight down the middle with his punches at times, he may well of knocked Fury down even more or got him out of there etc.

Joshua hits with good power, and can vary his punches. But I expect Fury to know this, and therefore? A different type of Fury will turn up.

Wilder's aggression, and power with a decent Jab. Seemed to be enough to bridge the gap and negate Fury's apparently superior boxing skills. In the third fight Fury and Wilder did not look levels apart, they could both find each other and hit each other 'And they were both making plenty of forced and unforced errors'.

It was a great match up in terms of passion, competitiveness and aggression. But skill for skill, it was not a high level fight.

Usyk vs Joshua was a higher level fight skill for skill. That is what is intriguing, Joshua has just went 24 rounds with a super elite technical fighter. It has been a long time since Tyson Fury has fought at elite level skill for skill, you have to go back to the Wladimir Kiltschko fight.

Fury's not 248 pounds anymore, he is not training under Peter Fury 'Fury is no longer The Riddler'.

Still if Tyson Fury is as good as his hardcore fans make out? Joshua should not win a round, and definitely should not survive the full 12 rounds.

Fury must be in tip top condition of that there is no doubt , Joshua's strength is his fitness and strength ,the fact that if you are there to be hit then Joshua can hit . I think Joshua will have some early success until Fury starts to find the gaps and will start to dismantle him around the halfway stage .I see Joshua out of idea's and shipping heavy punishment by the half way stage or 8 at the latest, until his corner or more likely the referee stops it.I say this as little Ruiz dropped him four times and had him so disoriented he was asking McCracken 'what's he going to do next'? and then we see a much smaller man in Usyk seconds away from ****ing him out in the first fight rd 12.I don't think it's just 'hardcore fans' giving Tyson such a massive advantage as the bookies also have him as a big betting favourite and that is based on the facts.May the best man win!

[tokon]

Joshua's biggest shortcoming is his blatant lack of confidence in his chin. It impacts on every other facet.

[MONGOOSE66]

I’ve always have leaned toward Fury winning this fight. That said, AJ has been fighting a hummingbird (Usyk) in comparison to Fury. He’s also been far more active. Add that and the fact that they are about the same size. I think this will be a more ruff fight than Fury anticipates.
AJ definitely has a chance.