Is Canelo on the decline?

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  • IceTrayDaGang
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    #21
    Originally posted by Regge

    Buy hey yo IceTrayDaGang cube dawg you picked ggg to beat him.

    Now we'S got to spin these shyt huh smh lol
    spin? i did pick GGG!! im not a fan, aint making excuses. i am telling the truth that GGG aint that good! and neither is canelo,

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    • Basco
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      #22
      I think he is starting to feel the efdects of aging for sure. Of course, if you put him with a subpar fighter he'll look good but when he has to fight for it, we will see the real Canelo.

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      • paulf
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        #23
        No. Combination of the opponent and his style has changed a bit over time.

        Canelo had a lot of respect for GGG last night and stuck to his gameplan. Even when they traded a bit down the stretch Canelo was constantly moving out of the pocket and resetting. Also Canelo in general boxes a bit more than he did say pre-GGG II, and the name of the game last night was to get off with speed and not give GGG any opportunities. Canelo only somewhat did away with that when it was clear he had the fight in the bag and GGG wasn't showing the ability to trouble Canelo at all.

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        • mrpain81
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          #24
          His stamina has gone to ****.

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          • IceTrayDaGang
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            #25
            canelo doesnt have oscar with him anymore and it shows in his fights... canelo was never that good. he was just matched with the right opponents, aka james kirkland and amir khan type guys...

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            • Street
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              #26
              Absolutely. He is.

              Add the fact that he isn't taking boxing as serious as he did is also a factor to his diminisding abilities.

              Apparently, his new passion is golf

              Go figure

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                Dinamita
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                #27
                He looked the same to me, he was just swinging for the fences and he’s never measured his pace. His stamina/pacing issues have been apparent since the Austin Trout fight. Hes gassed in every big fight that’s gone the distance. He’s not declining he’s just been a finished product at this point.

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                • Dakuwaqa
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by crillz
                  When I detect a decline it's usually when a guy doesn't respond the way he would've prior
                  not because they were confused mentally or a style issue but because PHYSICALLY the body CAN'T perform the tasks.
                  Example, GGG is definitely on the decline at 40
                  he's physically not as capable as he was in their 1st fight, far less than when he was facing the Gregorz Proksa's of the world.
                  THAT to me is a declining fighter, he can no longer be what we know him to be
                  even against lesser opposition.
                  The GGG that stopped Vanes & Brook would've made quick work of Murata imo

                  Canelo however I feel is at his peak, like all he CAN DO from here is decline if he isn't careful.
                  in his ONLY loss since Floyd he still looked great he just got outsmarted
                  he went the distance, walked down the bigger guy & gave a solid account for himself in certain areas
                  far from DECLINING imo
                  had he done just a bit more he literally would've won the fight, all 3 scores were 115-113
                  little more movement, little more punching & we talking about a Canelo W here
                  Omg it’s Mr ‘you know what I’m saying’ Crillz

                  I remember you from back in the day on boxing chat show with burner and your strong New York accent!

                  Hows things?

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                  • Cypocryphy
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                    #29
                    He was fighting hurt, so there's that. Honestly, these guys are so good that I can't say he's on the decline. It's like Golovkin said: This is the highest level of boxing. Alvarez respected his power and rightfully so because he was buckled a couple times.

                    Canelo looked like he still has his speed. He still looks formidable. This was a chess match. Just like they are saying.

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                    • crillz
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Dakuwaqa

                      Omg it’s Mr ‘you know what I’m saying’ Crillz

                      I remember you from back in the day on boxing chat show with burner and your strong New York accent!

                      Hows things?
                      Chillin champ just been working hard & paying bills, how have you been?
                      yeah I remember them good days lol
                      who knows maybe we can bring it back if everybody still around

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