Comments Thread For: Wilder on Joshua: 'They Made Anthony Joshua ... They Gave Him Everything'

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  • PRINCEKOOL
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    #31
    Originally posted by Roberto Vasquez
    I mean Tyson Fury - 2 title defenses his whole career and 2 top-20 fighters in 6 years. AJ is actually probably the most proven at his current ranking in the division
    He has more experience than Tyson Fury at elite and world class level.

    Skill for skill when you analyse Fury's resume. The last time he fought at elite level, another technically elite level boxer was 'Wladimir Kiltschko'.

    Wilder was a elite level fight, but not in terms of technical skill. And that is no disrespect to Wilder, I rate Wilder 'And he does have a good Jab'.

    If you take Wilder & Kiltschko out of Fury's resume. He has only really fought at domestic and high end European level.

    Whyte by the time he got to Fury was not world class, probably dropped off to European level.

    Joshua has back to back, no matter how people try to dress it down 'He has consistently fought at world class or elite level for quite some time now'.

    Joshua has just fought two back to back fights at super elite level vs Usyk. He is on paper the more experienced fighter than Fury.

    Does not mean he is better than Fury, but it is a 100% fact that he has more experience at world class and elite level.
    Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 09-18-2022, 12:38 PM.

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    • peplz
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      #32
      Anthony Joshua just had a split decision loss to a guy that is currently considered by many to be the number 1 p4p athlete in the entire sport. And Deontay Wilder just got knocked out twice in a row by a flabby recovering drug addict. And he has cried and whined about the losses like a full grown poor sport of a child the entire time since both of the losses occurred. Is there really a need for boxingscene to print an article about something said by someone who has as little credibility to judge or make any negative assessment about any other fighter as Deontay Wilder? Somebody had to have lost a bet at the office or pulled a short straw where the loser was required to come to work dressed like Ronald McDonald and write about something that Deontay Wilder said to have been forced to write this cringe worthy used toilet paper/tampon of an article. Do better boxingscene…

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      • ShoulderRoll
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        #33
        Joshua has been manufactured to a certain extent.

        The dodgy Olympic decision and then becoming a "world champion" by beating Charles Martin.

        Wilder is not wrong about that.

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        • TITOS HOOK
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          #34
          The nerve of this negro! His choreographed dance with Malik Scott...his reprehensible treatment of Mark Breland...his wanting a body on bhis record (unbelievable!)....his absurd excuses for his loss and his legendary "...my suit was too heavy..." reason for losing. This boy (Wilder) is a sucker. The LDBC has been blowing smoke up his a** for so long and he began to drink his own bathwater. OK Helenius is going to dive..but after that I'm looking forward to seeing him get his a** kicked again. It's shame he will be paid an obscene amount of money for it.

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          • GlassJoey
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            #35
            Could you imagine the backlash if AJ fought Helenius after losing to Usyk?

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            • TMLT87
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              #36
              Wilder was even more manufactured than Joshua but the difference is in his case the manufacturing didnt bring him the same level of money and fame because the US audience never embraced him the way the Brits did with AJ.

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              • REMOVE SHARK 5510
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                #37
                Joshua just lost to p4p elite fighter and is ready to go against Fury already in december while Wilder hasn't fought in year and is coming back fighting Helenius. Helenius is far from elite but i can easily see him winning that fight

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                • Boxviewer
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Mikeh333

                  If Wilder had only agreed to fight Joshua years ago, for any amount of money, he would have knocked him out, and would have been the unified champ, if only for a little while.
                  Wilder didn't have the balls to fight AJ in 2019 despite an offer he will never smell again in his life. Would have been ****** rich by now and less bitter.

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                  • gluvsup
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                    #39
                    Pretty funny coming from the king of hallucination Wilder. His record is impressive in sheer KO numbers, true, but not for who he KO’d. In a whopping four dozen contests, the only live pulse he’s faced is Fury.

                    The only live pulse AJ hasn’t faced is Fury.

                    That said, I’d give the Alabama loudmouth very decent odds of KO’ing Joshua, who just doesn’t have the chin or the nerve any more for the job. But let’s give AJ credit where it’s due: the anti-Wilder, he’s laid it on the line again and again.

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                    • elfag
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by FeFist
                      Wilder is a ****** ****.

                      He was offered the fight with Wlad. His people thought he was too green for it.

                      The only reason he fought Fury was because he thought it would be a quick cash grab against a shot fighter.

                      He made his name knocking out journey men and is trying to act like a warrior because of a cherry pick gone wrong.

                      They should have taken the fight, they protected wilder too much should have taken more risks given his power. Wlad has been chin checked many times, wilder could have been lineal champ there, he had a decent shot as anyone.

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