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  • Coachcody
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    #21
    I kind of get it, but the guy won an Olympic gold medal and then knocked out Klitschko.....and reclaimed his belts against Ruiz....not too shabby

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    • Mr Riatonon
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      #22
      Tony Atass who? AJ has proven himself all these years and just because he's hit a tough obstacle opponent doesn't mean he's not the AJ we all know. Everyone goes through these things.

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      • Rodtang
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        #23
        Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL

        Wladimir Kiltschko's woman was unwell during the lead up to the first Fury fight. He had issues outside the ring.

        I think Kiltschko definitely would of done better in the rematch.
        Wlad, Vitali and Bernard Boente, as well as the majority of the German media, who covered pretty much most his career, all said that his performance against Joshua was one of his career best. They said his performance against Fury was dreadful, which anyone can see, but Fury fans don't like to be told, and refuse to accept. Joshua got the better version of Wlad, and he beat him more convincingly also. He didn't peck his way to a razor thin win against a guy who wasn't interested. He took the risks and came through adversity and stopped a great fighter. Maybe Roadman 6 short SHOULD kill himself.

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        • allen23
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          #24
          Originally posted by Rodtang

          Wlad, Vitali and Bernard Boente, as well as the majority of the German media, who covered pretty much most his career, all said that his performance against Joshua was one of his career best. They said his performance against Fury was dreadful, which anyone can see, but Fury fans don't like to be told, and refuse to accept. Joshua got the better version of Wlad, and he beat him more convincingly also. He didn't peck his way to a razor thin win against a guy who wasn't interested. He took the risks and came through adversity and stopped a great fighter. Maybe Roadman 6 short SHOULD kill himself.
          Ahaha you're one of the dumbest mofo's alive. Fury fought an active younger better fighter in klitschko. Furys fight was boring but wlad didn't lay a glove on him. Wlad was retired nearly 3 years and in his 40's when he fought Joshua and stilloutclassed him for most of the fight..a better strategy and he was finished.
          Joshua has had a lot handed to him. He lost his first fight at London Olympics and was allowed fight Charles Martin to become would champ. Enough said

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          • KingGilgamesh
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            #25
            Originally posted by RoadMan94

            Wlad was in better condition? Lmfao.

            tell me you’ve never ever boxed without telling me you’ve never ever boxed…..

            ladies and gentleman , I introduce to you, Prince Kool Aid. Because boy you be slurping Joshua kool aid despite you being proven wrong time after time after time after time.

            You must be trolling. Wlad was in better shape coming off inactivity that any boxing brain worth a grain of salt know inactivity KILLS FIGHTERS.

            I seriously pity you. I’d honestly kill myself if I had you’re mind.


            and btw. You “rate” AJ win more because you despise Tyson fury. Just like 95% of all Joshua fans on here do.


            i would honestly overdose on OxyContin if I was you.

            You’re funny to look and laugh at though. I will give you that,
            This is it.

            A LOT of Joshua's fans have never boxed. I mean its kind of a good thing because Joshua has really worked miracles for British boxings popularity...but at the same time its kinda brought in an influx of people who legit know nothing about fighting. I mean legit trying to make out as if inactivity isn't THE biggest kryptonite for any fighter is just the height of cluelessness....

            Even with this likely Fury fight...dudes saying its some great move when all it really shows I'd how green Joshua still is and how poor the decision making is in his camp.

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            • TheOneAboveAll
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              #26
              Even AJ's most ardent fans know that this man could lose to any Top 20 fighter on any given night. He has massively overachieved in this sport and he deserves credit for that, but he simply is not and never will be a natural fighter, and that's why he will never beat the true elite HWs.

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              • KingGilgamesh
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                #27
                Originally posted by Rodtang

                Wlad, Vitali and Bernard Boente, as well as the majority of the German media, who covered pretty much most his career, all said that his performance against Joshua was one of his career best. They said his performance against Fury was dreadful, which anyone can see, but Fury fans don't like to be told, and refuse to accept. Joshua got the better version of Wlad, and he beat him more convincingly also. He didn't peck his way to a razor thin win against a guy who wasn't interested. He took the risks and came through adversity and stopped a great fighter. Maybe Roadman 6 short SHOULD kill himself.
                It was a "career best" because he almost won. He almost got a 27 year old the **** outta there despite being 40+ and off a near 2 year layoff.

                Wilders performance against Fury was one of his most impressive too. But from a boxing standpoint it was ****ing awful. He didnt commit to the jab, fought basic as ****, was gassed by the 3rd round and spent most of the fight getting his face caved in. And I like Wilder. He's probably my favourite heavyweight.

                The problem with a lot of Joshua fans is that you're man fans, not fans of a guy who boxes. Fury is a twat but his performance against Wlad was an absolute masterclass. Wlad has been KOed plenty but his jab and grab style was fast being seen as the depressing future of boxing. Hes never been systematically dismantled over 12 rounds. Fury showed exactly how you completely dismantle a longstanding champion is his backyard. His fainting in that fight was just gorgeous...but fainting isnt somethign ever understood by a casual or beginner. Ive been kickboxing for years and its atill not something I commit to in fights. For Fury to completely nullify a hall of famer with it is testament to his ability.

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                • RoadMan94
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by KingGilgamesh

                  This is it.

                  A LOT of Joshua's fans have never boxed. I mean its kind of a good thing because Joshua has really worked miracles for British boxings popularity...but at the same time its kinda brought in an influx of people who legit know nothing about fighting. I mean legit trying to make out as if inactivity isn't THE biggest kryptonite for any fighter is just the height of cluelessness....

                  Even with this likely Fury fight...dudes saying its some great move when all it really shows I'd how green Joshua still is and how poor the decision making is in his camp.
                  I can promise you now, when Fury and Wlad fought and fury won, social media in U.K. was full of AJ fans saying they’ll do the “Fat Gippo C unt” and so much more. This was FB, about 5000 people tweeted this exact line to fury directly. It was everywhere all these fans adamant about Joshua would wipe the floor with both fury and Wlad.

                  The main consensus of these fans though, was the notion that Fury had only won because Wladimir was “nearly 40 over the hill, washed up and lost the hunger” alongside him having a bad night.

                  2 years later, He has a really entertaining fight with Joshua , and AJ beats the Greatest Heavyweight in the last era and so on.

                  Adam Smith & Johnny Nelson are on records stating Eddie made clear to sky he didn’t want any mention of Fury beating Wlad. He was billed as unbeaten near enough.

                  how does a 40+yr old go from being finished and washed up to being back to a prime fighter after two years of inactivity.

                  PrinceKool has admitted to me last time I proved him wrong, he doesn’t care how much evidence you provide to him, he’s sticking with his views even if it’s ******, absurd and makes him look mentally ill. And it’s best to leave the convo there as he isn’t going back and forth.

                  that’s pretty much a direct quote of his words! I mean, what can you possibly do to help a guy like that? I dunno why I fall for it and try making sense of his statements.
                  Last edited by RoadMan94; 09-13-2022, 09:12 AM.

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                  • OhMightyThanos
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                    #29
                    The problem is Joshua’s ego and his lack of humility. He talks if his own legend before he has achieved it. Legends are built on the words of others, not your own. There has been a talent vacuum since the departure of Lewis, Tyson, Holyfield, Foreman, Vitaly, Bowe, etc… Wlad was essentially the glass-jawed king of the lumbering dip****s whose career was saved by Emanuel Steward’s guidance. The torch was passed by a 40-year-old Klitschko, who AT 40 got off the canvas to floor Joshua, but protective of his own glass jaw he did not seize the opportunity to close the show on AJ. Atlas is right. AJ is AMONG THE TOP of his generation, but far from the legend he would lead you to believe he is. And he is in his prime now. If people are to insist that he is great, where do we put Usyk and his two decision victories over AJ? Heck, where do we put Ruiz? Truth is the talent level is low at Heavyweight. That’s why skilled fighters who are challenged by genetics at heavyweight, whether they are small or borderline obese, can overcome those factors and succeed, and in fact have against the self-purported legend if the sport, Anthony “The Narcissist” Joshua, the unsportsmanlike former champ who can’t congratulate the man who defeated him twice and takes the titles after the announcement of his defeat and dumps them over the top rope to the floor outside the ring… just emphasizes one singe thought: Loser.

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                    • KingGilgamesh
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL

                      Wladimir Kiltschko's woman was unwell during the lead up to the first Fury fight. He had issues outside the ring.

                      I think Kiltschko definitely would of done better in the rematch.
                      Dude. You need to stop. You're really kinda showing your ass and lack of understanding here. You will NEVER be a better fighter after inactivity. Ever.

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