Cus D'amato claimed guys with my skeleton structure (Hearns) punch the hardest. Was he right?

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  • Babadoux
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    #121
    Originally posted by Pugilist89
    Lew jenkins is Atlas first guy.

    173 height, 173 reach.. In other words average.
    Fair enough, your thread title implide something else by drawing the comparison to Hearns. Being thin and wiry is relevant only with weightclasses.

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    • Pugilist89
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      #122
      Here's someone who is not a puncher.

      You can see that it's in the lack of weight shift. Fury just doesn't have the athleticism for his right hand. There no real weight transfer or kinetic energy (acceleration)
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      https://m.******************/mMUfwKXU0T4
      Last edited by Pugilist89; 09-10-2022, 10:22 AM.

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        #123
        Originally posted by Cypocryphy

        I can't say right now. But if you film yourself for 10 secs, punching a legit heavy bag with some wraps and gloves on, so you can really whop it, I'll let you know if I'll fight you or duck you

        You wanted hooks. Maybe now you can see..

        Puncher or Pauli. Maligniaggi?

        https://********/YUYbl1oyliY

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        • Pugilist89
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          #124
          Straight right.

          https://******************/T2xgDpTn3g4?*************

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          • Pugilist89
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            #125
            Family tree: genetic father was a World class Shotokan Karate point fighter. He won gold in EUros.

            He got DQ for a knockout in a WC . blasted the dude on the temple with an open hand strike (bareknuckle in those days) . Threw his belt on the ground and walked out of there.

            My father Hated point fighting but he was the best they got. He was open weight class competitor.



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            • Pugilist89
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              #126
              I believe I would have Julian Jackson power. So. It's bittersweat that I never became a boxer.

              But my brain is thankful.
              Last edited by Pugilist89; 09-10-2022, 02:31 PM.

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              • Tails
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                #127
                He was wrong in my opinion.

                Punchers come in all different heights and sizes.

                The Hearns type of fighters have the illusion of more power because they are so huge compared to their opponents. They are able to load up on ****s from a safer ranger because of the reach and height differences.

                This is no disrespect to Hearns to be clear. But don't fool yourself into thinking that power only comes in one form.

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                • Babadoux
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by Tails
                  He was wrong in my opinion.

                  Punchers come in all different heights and sizes.

                  The Hearns type of fighters have the illusion of more power because they are so huge compared to their opponents. They are able to load up on ****s from a safer ranger because of the reach and height differences.

                  This is no disrespect to Hearns to be clear. But don't fool yourself into thinking that power only comes in one form.
                  I'm not even all that familiar with the quote or what might have been the context, but I feel like the goal post was also moved from skeleton structure like Hearns (think tall and long reach) to skinny and wiry (which is not a skeletal feature). But the op doesn't seem open to a reasonable conversation. He seems to have started the thread to get validation from people on the internet about his punching power and is very argumentative with anyone that's not giving him that validation.

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                  • Pugilist89
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                    #129
                    Originally posted by Babadoux

                    But the op doesn't seem open to a reasonable conversation. He .
                    Cus D'amoto claimed that people with lighter, skinny physique could rotate their hips further, and with a lighter arm could generate massive torques.

                    So it's a combination of weight placement and skeletal structure

                    My coach had a Hearns type physique (including reach) and he was by far the hardest puncher in there. Me and him blasted the hardest.

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                    • Cypocryphy
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by Pugilist89


                      You wanted hooks. Maybe now you can see..

                      Puncher or Pauli. Maligniaggi?

                      https://********/YUYbl1oyliY
                      Okay man. When I first saw this thread, I thought you were trolling. But I can see that you are very serious. I'm going to repeat everything I initially said. If you want to know whether you punch hard, you're going to have to fight someone. Simple as that. That's how you know.

                      That aside, when I'm in the gym, you can tell when someone is hitting a heavy bag with a lot of power. It has a distinctive sound. This doesn't necessarily say that you hit hard, but if you are hearing this, then you can be sure the guy isn't hitting with a lot of power.

                      Here's an example of someone who is hitting the bag but not necessarily with a lot of power:

                      https://www.******************/YGH4kXtsgX0

                      Now here's an example of someone hitting the heavy bag with KO power:

                      https://www.******************/bXy_zcDmrvU

                      (It should sound like a gunshot or the crack of a whip.)

                      There's a big difference. If you want to compare, you'll have to hit a bag that weighs a lot more than that little kid bag you have. It'll fly around because of how light it is. Also, keep in mind that, generally, if the heavy bag is flying around, it means your punching technique is off.

                      Good luck.

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