Why do people criticise Anthony Joshua physique and didn’t criticise Klitschko physique ?

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  • Boxing-1013
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    #11
    Originally posted by Babadoux
    Wladimir was criticized for his build, until stamina stopped being such a big issue for him in his fights.
    bingoooooo

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    • Quiksilva
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      #12
      Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL

      They both lifted and lift weights, so does Tyson Fury.

      It was Dillian Whyte who first called Joshua 'A skinny body builder'.

      And Whyte is heavy on the weights. Whyte has actually regressed since he fought Joshua.

      Whyte could actually move inside the ring, when he fought Joshua.



      Every boxer lifts weights, but not heavily and big compared to AJ. Lifting weights slows down speed (told by a coach of mine)

      You gotta lift not too heavy

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      • PRINCEKOOL
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        #13
        Originally posted by Quiksilva

        Every boxer lifts weights, but not heavily and big compared to AJ. Lifting weights slows down speed (told by a coach of mine)

        You gotta lift not too heavy
        You don't have to lift weights, but you do have to resistance train. There are many forms.

        You do know that the fastest athletes on the planet lift weights? And their power to weight ratio's is off the scale?

        Speed is the generation by force, being applied in the shortest amount of time. That is what creates speed and power.

        You don't know Joshua's routine 'So stop talking like you do, YOU DON'T'. Fury lifts heavy weights mate, it is not a mandatory but he does it.

        You are penalizing Joshua because of his physique and how his body develops due to genetics.

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          #14
          Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
          I am now waiting for the people to enter who? Criticize Joshua's endurance.

          When you really analyse his fights, and compare his work rate and out put to Tyson Fury, Andy Ruiz Junior you name it.

          Anthony Joshua is performing at a higher work load. Than both Fury & Ruiz Junior.

          Joshua is miles ahead of Ruiz Junior.

          And Joshua & Fury are very close in terms of out put 'Joshua is actually out working Fury in all of his biggest fights'.

          Joshua does not have elite level endurance, but it is not as bad as people make out. Not in this era of heavyweights anyway.


          Workload does not matter. Against a bum you can throw 300 punches a round. Against a slick boxer that makes your head spin you can't even land one! Watch AJ - Usyk 2. The last 4 rounds Usyk rattled AJs brain, while AJ only landed a meagerly 2 clean punches (I have timestamped them in another post).

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          • oscar9992
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            #15
            Wlad didn't have stamina issues AJ has

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              #16
              Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL

              You don't have to lift weights, but you do have to resistance train. There are many forms.

              You do know that the fastest athletes on the planet lift weights? And their power to weight ratio's is off the scale?

              Speed is the generation by force, being applied in the shortest amount of time. That is what creates speed and power.

              You don't know Joshua's routine 'So stop talking like you do, YOU DON'T'. Fury lifts heavy weights mate, it is not a mandatory but he does it.

              You are penalizing Joshua because of his physique and how his body develops due to genetics.
              I've seen footage of AJ's training, he does heavy as **** deadlifts. He's a body builder, care to explain why some people here have said he has stamina issues?

              Lean muscle > body builder

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                #17
                Wlads muscle was functional ajs is not. Wlad could go 12 aj can't

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                • Gideon lock
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                  #18
                  Strange thing about ajs stamina is that against the takams of the world combinations and output wasn't an issue but against usyk he forgets the fundamentals and gets gassed.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Quiksilva

                    Every boxer lifts weights, but not heavily and big compared to AJ. Lifting weights slows down speed (told by a coach of mine)

                    You gotta lift not too heavy
                    Compound lifts make you more explosive.

                    I jump higher and faster ever since i started squats, even though i weigh 20 lbs more, and deadlifts and bench press made me punch harder.

                    It's the isolation lifts that slow down a person since 99% of those lifts dont require explosiveness but the opposite which is lift slow and time under tension.

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                    • PRINCEKOOL
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Haka

                      Workload does not matter. Against a bum you can throw 300 punches a round. Against a slick boxer that makes your head spin you can't even land one! Watch AJ - Usyk 2. The last 4 rounds Usyk rattled AJs brain, while AJ only landed a meagerly 2 clean punches (I have timestamped them in another post).
                      Anthony Joshua vs Usyk is out working Tyson Fury vs Deontay Wilder. Joshua's work rate is superior to Fury vs Wilder I, and Fury vs Wilder III 'Even if Fury continues with his trajectory he is not matching Joshua'.

                      Joshua is out working Fury against Usyk, and Usyk strong point is his endurance and technical skill. So your point about only being able to achieve such a feat vs a lesser fighter is nonsense.

                      Anthony Joshua vs Wladimir Kiltschko 'Only threw 16 less punches than Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Kiltschko'.

                      Fury's fight went the distance 'A full 12 rounds', Joshua's fight lasted into the 11th round.

                      The fact of the matter is, Joshua's endurance is not his strong point. But at elite level he is still beating, or is matching Tyson Fury.

                      Tyson Fury's for some reason has bestowed with this stereotype that he has elite level endurance. It is completely made up.

                      Out of the two fighters, Joshua has performed the greater feats of endurance.

                      1: Getting up off the deck early in the fight vs Kiltschko. To then endure and survive heavy bombardment, fighting on to get a knock out 'Is a by far superior feat of endurance than anything Fury has achieved'.

                      2: Fury's best feat of endurance was vs Deontay Wilder I. Surviving Wilder's power, to then fight on in the last round for another few minutes.

                      I rate Joshua's feat of endurance higher. Because he was knocked down early in the fight vs Kiltschko, and had to fight on for many more rounds to get the win.

                      Note: Tyson Fury has good endurance, but as you can see? It is not as great as people try and make out. And people here cannot go back to fights at domestic level or against fighters who are not world class 'At top level, Joshua & Fury's endurance is comparable'.

                      Quiksilva



                      Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 09-07-2022, 05:39 AM.

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