Comments Thread For: Shields On Marshall's Knockouts: She's Knocking Out Smaller Girls With Losing Records

[Boro]

So, you don't respect women's boxing?

So, what's your point?

You just said that in every other circumstance you'd take Shields, which was exactly my point in the first place.

Fighters are fighters, regardless of their gender

The same principles that drive mens boxing drives womens boxing, even though we both admit there are less talented women, in general, but still women's boxing is a lot farther along in it's development that you give it credit for.

Shields is the most accomplished boxer with the better resume.

There's no reason why that would make her the underdog in womens' boxing, when you yourself admit that it wouldn't make her the underdog in mens boxing.

I'm not saying Marshall can't win or won't win.

I said, and you JUST admitted that under every other circumstance in which we see this scenario in boxing, the more accomplished boxer would be the favorite.

The reason I'd normally take shields is because she's the apparent boxer but like I said there is marked improvements in Marshalls since the amateurs and negligible improvements for Shields, hence why I'd pick Marshall.

It's like you're reading what I'm saying but not comprehending what's being said the achievements are not equivalent between men and women so her not being the favourite just because of achievements isn't to surprising.

let's keep it 100 it's partially because I'm not the only one who doesn't rate the achievements of women's boxing particularly those in the higher divisions...

And let's not act like she's a massive underdog by any stretch of the imagination most sites have the odds were it's equivalent to about 53% of Marshall pulling out the win.

And no I didn't imply in every other circumstance in boxing the more accomplished boxer would be favourite Khan was the more accomplished fighter throughout and had fought better opposition and despite that at no point would he be a favourite over Brook, that's the exact opposite of implying in every scenario the more accomplished boxer should be favourite.

[joseph5620]

You're right. Unlike Joe Savannah can punch with both hands.

So Marshall is better than Joe Frazier now. Brilliant.

[The D3vil]

The reason I'd normally take shields is because she's the apparent boxer but like I said there is marked improvements in Marshalls since the amateurs and negligible improvements for Shields, hence why I'd pick Marshall.

It's like you're reading what I'm saying but not comprehending what's being said the achievements are not equivalent between men and women so her not being the favourite just because of achievements isn't to surprising.

let's keep it 100 it's partially because I'm not the only one who doesn't rate the achievements of women's boxing particularly those in the higher divisions...

And let's not act like she's a massive underdog by any stretch of the imagination most sites have the odds were it's equivalent to about 53% of Marshall pulling out the win.

And no I didn't imply in every other circumstance in boxing the more accomplished boxer would be favourite Khan was the more accomplished fighter throughout and had fought better opposition and despite that at no point would he be a favourite over Brook, that's the exact opposite of implying in every scenario the more accomplished boxer should be favourite.

You keep bringing up Khan & Brook as if once again, we hadn't seen Khan be knocked silly countless times before he fought Brook & we didn't all know why Khan was ducking Brook for all those years.

We've never seen Shields lose or even come close to losing.

Like I said, I rate women's boxing higher than you do, apparently.

It's not as deep as men's boxing, but not so terrible that it just doesn't matter who fights how. That still matters, to me.

It's fine that Marshall is improved, I give her a puncher's chance of winning, I just don't think she should be the favorite over somebody with a far better resume and has never been defeated in the last decade of amateur & pro fights.

[Boro]

You keep bringing up Khan & Brook as if once again, we hadn't seen Khan be knocked silly countless times before he fought Brook & we didn't all know why Khan was ducking Brook for all those years.

We've never seen Shields lose or even come close to losing.

Like I said, I rate women's boxing higher than you do, apparently.

It's not as deep as men's boxing, but not so terrible that it just doesn't matter who fights how. That still matters, to me.

It's fine that Marshall is improved, I give her a puncher's chance of winning, I just don't think she should be the favorite over somebody with a far better resume and has never been defeated in the last decade of amateur & pro fights.

The margin of how much a "favourite" she is is negligible.

And my point about Khan and Brook is regardless of Khans "weakness" when they eventually fought that didn't change that at any point in their respective careers Brook would be favourite despite Khans perceived experience, medal and "better" resume and like I said Brooks first 5 opponents have 453 losses...

it was THE most obvious comparison considering you were hung up on losses of savannahs opponents and Shields apparently superior opposition and Khan for the most part kept his amateur style and Brook continued to improve...

I could go another obvious example Wilder and AJ, AJ is obviously more accomplished and the gold medallist and yet most people would favour Wilder regardless EVEN BEFORE Wlad/Ruiz your "accomplishments" or the accomplishments of your opponents don't mean you'll be favourite in all circumstances...

I don't disregard women's boxing I just don't rate women 140 and above...

[The D3vil]

The margin of how much a "favourite" she is is negligible.

And my point about Khan and Brook is regardless of Khans "weakness" when they eventually fought that didn't change that at any point in their respective careers Brook would be favourite despite Khans perceived experience, medal and "better" resume and like I said Brooks first 5 opponents have 453 losses...

it was THE most obvious comparison considering you were hung up on losses of savannahs opponents and Shields apparently superior opposition and Khan for the most part kept his amateur style and Brook continued to improve...

I could go another obvious example Wilder and AJ, AJ is obviously more accomplished and the gold medallist and yet most people would favour Wilder regardless EVEN BEFORE Wlad/Ruiz your "accomplishments" or the accomplishments of your opponents don't mean you'll be favourite in all circumstances...

I don't disregard women's boxing I just don't rate women 140 and above...

Like I said, there's levels to this.

It was obvious from the opening bell who the better fighter with the better pedigree was.

[Boro]

Like I said, there's levels to this.

It was obvious from the opening bell who the better fighter with the better pedigree was.

It was a close fight don't be naïve and I have no issues with Claressa winning she actually showed decent ability on the backfoot for the first time.

And I originally responded to you because you were crying on about Marshall being favourite because of their dislike of Shields which remains untrue and she was a very marginal favourite when they were first scheduled to fight and when it was rescheduled Claressa was the favourite...

[The D3vil]

It was a close fight don't be naïve and I have no issues with Claressa winning she actually showed decent ability on the backfoot for the first time.

And I originally responded to you because you were crying on about Marshall being favourite because of their dislike of Shields which remains untrue and she was a very marginal favourite when they were first scheduled to fight and when it was rescheduled Claressa was the favourite...

It was not a close fight.

It was a 7-3 fight, which is how 2 of the judges, rightfully, scored it.

And like I always said, there was no reason and the fight expressly showed that there was never any reason for Marshall to be the favorite.

Not resume, skills, or anything else other than people's desire to see Shields' shut up.

[KingGilgamesh]

Problem is women boxing has no depth. The MW division has 19 fighters in the entire world. Any woman could have a fight and be a top 20 MW.


Marshall going to wear Shields down and stop here late. Marshall is non stop and Shields got nothing to worry her.

Lol this ****tard is tied with BangEM for dumbest NSB posters of all time. Has this idiot ever got a prediction right?

[Robbie Barrett]

Lol this ****tard is tied with BangEM for dumbest NSB posters of all time. Has this idiot ever got a prediction right?

3 min rounds and i would have been right. Shields was the one weakening towards the end.

[Boro]

It was not a close fight.

It was a 7-3 fight, which is how 2 of the judges, rightfully, scored it.

And like I always said, there was no reason and the fight expressly showed that there was never any reason for Marshall to be the favorite.

Not resume, skills, or anything else other than people's desire to see Shields' shut up.

Plenty of people had it 6-4 including boxing that's 1 round from a draw, it doesn't get much closer.

Your type normally moan about judging in Britain now they score in favourable way for your guy and it's the "right score". hilarious if I do say so myself.