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Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post...
lets measure Cliff Rold against other boxing journalists throughout history....
Cliff Rold : - Measured Against All Time
As always, this section is concerned with the articles that Cliff did write.... not the articles, that he did not write
Verdict: All-Time Great and the Greatest Writer of this generation
good one Cliff, keep em comin
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May, May, May
How can a ''cherrypicker'' ALWAYS be mentioned when it comes to greatness ?
Every ATG/HOFer is matched against him (NOT him in his prime, though).
He is even mentioned in the lounge with Serena Williams.
While being the ''best'' to ever do it is impossible to prove, he is definitely in the conversation.
''Purists'' mention some old timey fighters who were sloppy AF
Less rules and more fixed fights...padded stats galore.
5 fights a month MFers
''Step right up and get your boxing license....all you need is a pen.....''
He certainly was the best in his time and since.Last edited by BodyBagz; 09-08-2022, 12:58 AM.
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Bottomline is Margarito was a duck, so you have to take that into account when comparing to fighters like Usyk.
Prime Margarito at 147 was a nightmare for everyone, certainly at the time, plaster or not. The difference between Mosley and Floyd is thats Floyd does not have that power to scare Margarito, Maidana has proved this.
Also Shane beat Margarito, but Margarito wasn't mentally there that night because of the upheaval. So did he beat the best version of Margarito ??? Clearly not.
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Originally posted by Haka View PostBottomline is Margarito was a duck, so you have to take that into account when comparing to fighters like Usyk.
Prime Margarito at 147 was a nightmare for everyone, certainly at the time, plaster or not. The difference between Mosley and Floyd is thats Floyd does not have that power to scare Margarito, Maidana has proved this.
Also Shane beat Margarito, but Margarito wasn't mentally there that night because of the upheaval. So did he beat the best version of Margarito ??? Clearly not.
riiiiiiiiiight
so, Floyd ducked that plodder Margarito..... but then he fought the guy who nearly killed Margarito.....
and he moved up in weight, to 154..... to fight guys who are LEVELS above that plodder Margarito, like Hoya and Canelo
and yet..... for some reason, you NEEEEEEED call that a duck
you are, another silly pacfan..... aren't you ?
1) how the fk could Plodderito beat Mayweather ? LMAO
2) the guys that Floyd beat at 154, Hoya and Canelo..... would have smashed Plodderito..... just like Mosley did
...Oregonian
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Originally posted by BodyBagz View PostMay, May, May
How can a ''cherrypicker'' ALWAYS be mentioned when it comes to greatness ?
Every ATG/HOFer is matched against him (NOT him in his prime, though).
He is even mentioned in the lounge with Serena Williams.
While being the ''best'' to ever do it is impossible to prove, he is definitely in the conversation.
''Purists'' mention some old timey fighters who were sloppy AF
Less rules and more fixed fights...padded stats galore.
5 fights a month MFers
''Step right up and get your boxing license....all you need is a pen.....''
He certainly was the best in his time and since.
Lineal World Titles: World Jr. Lightweight (1998-2002, 8 Defenses); World Lightweight (2002-04, 3 Defenses); World Welterweight (2006-08, 2 Defenses; 10-15, 6 Defenses); World Jr. Middleweight (2013-15, 1 Defense)
Title Reigns: WBC Super Featherweight (1998-2002, 8 Defenses); Ring/WBC Lightweight (2002-04, 3 Defenses); WBC Super Lightweight (2005); IBF Welterweight (2006); Ring/WBC Welterweight (2006-08, 1 Defense); WBC Super Welterweight (2007); WBC Welterweight (2011-15, 5 Defenses); WBA “Super” Super Welterweight (2012-15, 1 Defense); Ring Magazine Welterweight (2013-15, 4 Defenses); TBRB/Ring Magazine Jr. Middleweight (2013-15, 1 Defense); WBC Super Welterweight (2013-15, 1 Defense); WBA Welterweight (2014-15, 3 Defenses); TBRB Welterweight (2015, 1 Defense); WBO Welterweight (2015)
Entered Ring Magazine Ratings: March 1998 (#10 – Jr. Lightweight; Cover Date - July 1998)
Last Ring Magazine Rating: September 2015 (Champion – Welterweight; Cover Date December 2015)
Current/Former Lineal World Champions Faced: Genaro Hernandez RTD8; Diego Corrales TKO10; Jose Luis Castillo UD12, UD12; Zab Judah UD12; Carlos Baldomir UD12; Oscar De La Hoya SD12; Ricky Hatton TKO10; Juan Manuel Marquez UD12; Shane Mosley UD12; Miguel Cotto UD12; Saul Alvarez MD12; Manny Pacquiao UD12
Current/Former Alphabet Titlists Faced: Gregorio Vargas UD12; Carlos Hernandez UD12; Jesus Chavez TKO9; DeMarcus Corley UD12; Arturo Gatti RTD6; Sharmba Mitchell TKO6; Victor Ortiz KO4; Robert Guerrero UD12; Marcos Maidana MD12, UD12; Andre Berto UD12
Record Against Current/Former Champions/Titlists Faced: 24-0, 7 KO
all that shlt was in the article
this argument will not go well for you my bro
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