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  • #81
    Originally posted by Doubledagger View Post

    Okay, I say Loma will struggle to get past Haney's jab and when he does Haney will either turn with him or catch him coming in with counters.

    So now we just gotta wait and see whose prediction comes true.
    True indeed. It will be a good fight in my humble opinion! If Devin can keep him at range, it will be a long night for Loma. If Loma can get past that jab and length, then I believe Loma will win. Like you stated, we shall see!

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    • #82
      Originally posted by Cypocryphy View Post

      A lot of people thought Loma won, even one of the judges scoring the fight, which is why it was a split decision. Loma had Salido on the canvass in the 12th round too. Guy was about to get KO'd but for the bell. And Salido also landed more than 72 low blows, many to Loma's groin. Subtract 72 punches (which should have been non scoring) from his punch count, and it's ridiculous by how much Loma outlanded him, round after round.

      That's your typical Texan fix, where the Mexican boxer gets everything in his favor. Texan home cooking. It happens all the time.
      Boooo! Excuses, Loma has always got the benefit of the doubt, thus him having so many championship fights in so little professional fights. It doesn't happen all the time, if so, show the facts not your opinion Loma was hand picked to be one of the next pound for pound greatest, otherwise he would have had to earn his way to fight those championship fights like everyone else. Imagine if Boots, Charlo, Floyd, or many others were given chances to fight for championship fights as soon as they turned professional. This biased way they treated Loma wasn't even questioned, so much so that even after 2 losses in less than 20 fights, he remained on many pound for pound lists.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by Rebelrbg View Post

        Boooo! Excuses, Loma has always got the benefit of the doubt, thus him having so many championship fights in so little professional fights. It doesn't happen all the time, if so, show the facts not your opinion Loma was hand picked to be one of the next pound for pound greatest, otherwise he would have had to earn his way to fight those championship fights like everyone else. Imagine if Boots, Charlo, Floyd, or many others were given chances to fight for championship fights as soon as they turned professional. This biased way they treated Loma wasn't even questioned, so much so that even after 2 losses in less than 20 fights, he remained on many pound for pound lists.
        What are you talking about? Loma got those fights because he wanted them. Floyd and the others didn't want them at that time because their handlers told them not to take those fights. Floyd was managed like your typical boxer early in the career, which is a steady diet of bums. That's how it works.

        I'll tell you what. Prove me wrong by finding an article or some evidence to show me that Floyd asked for a championship fight when he first turned pro and that he was denied. I'll be waiting.

        In the meantime, YDKSAB!!!

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        • #84
          The only memory I'll have of Mikey's disgraceful career is that he ducked Loma. That's it.

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          • #85
            Mikey said AJ would beat Usyk. Cause his brother was training him. He evaluates from a biased position. Loma took out Nagatani. Tall enough for Teo to swear off tall fighters. Loma made it look easy. Haney will run.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by Cypocryphy View Post

              What are you talking about? Loma got those fights because he wanted them. Floyd and the others didn't want them at that time because their handlers told them not to take those fights. Floyd was managed like your typical boxer early in the career, which is a steady diet of bums. That's how it works.

              I'll tell you what. Prove me wrong by finding an article or some evidence to show me that Floyd asked for a championship fight when he first turned pro and that he was denied. I'll be waiting.

              In the meantime, YDKSAB!!!
              What YOU talking about? Most of the top fighters can't ask for a championship fight when they turn pro because they will be seen as an entitled clown. All of the top contenders and mandatory candidates would be in an uproar because they have been earning their positions.. YDKSAB!

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              • #87
                Originally posted by Rebelrbg View Post

                What YOU talking about? Most of the top fighters can't ask for a championship fight when they turn pro because they will be seen as an entitled clown. All of the top contenders and mandatory candidates would be in an uproar because they have been earning their positions.. YDKSAB!
                They don't ask for those fights because everyone knows that they aren't ready for that fight. Every promotor has his fingers on a sanctioning body, so it's not an issue. The rankings are just paid for. Haymon has the WBA and Arum has the WBO. It's been that way for a long time now. And before then, you had King and Jose Suleiman, who did under-the-table **** all the time. And before then you had the mafia. It's the same ****.

                The point being is that you can orchestrate a title fight quickly if you want to, especially in the lower weight divisions that no body pays attention to for the most part.

                I don't even know why people complain. Could you imagine Loma fighting prospects coming up? Loma made champions look like amateurs. Could you imagine what Loma would do to amateurs? lol It's a complete mismatch. Even the champions didn't want to fight Loma. Loma had to jump up several divisions just to have competitive fights, and even then they aren't that competitive.

                Like I said, YDKSAB

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by Cypocryphy View Post

                  They don't ask for those fights because everyone knows that they aren't ready for that fight. Every promotor has his fingers on a sanctioning body, so it's not an issue. The rankings are just paid for. Haymon has the WBA and Arum has the WBO. It's been that way for a long time now. And before then, you had King and Jose Suleiman, who did under-the-table **** all the time. And before then you had the mafia. It's the same ****.

                  The point being is that you can orchestrate a title fight quickly if you want to, especially in the lower weight divisions that no body pays attention to for the most part.

                  I don't even know why people complain. Could you imagine Loma fighting prospects coming up? Loma made champions look like amateurs. Could you imagine what Loma would do to amateurs? lol It's a complete mismatch. Even the champions didn't want to fight Loma. Loma had to jump up several divisions just to have competitive fights, and even then they aren't that competitive.

                  Like I said, YDKSAB
                  You must be a Loma fanatic because for all that you stated comes from a slanted, excuse making point of view favorably to his path. Floyd, Crawford, or any of the top prospects when they entered couldn't have demanded a championship fight immediately in the lighter divisions, and their handlers were screaming how good they were from the beginning. Even Shakur had to prove himself to get a shot by becoming a mandatory or top contenders first. Loma was hand held to a championship, hell HE LOST his first fight, and was fighting for a belt by his third. Yes, he beat some of the champions, which the length of his career in the amateurs probably played a role in, but he should have had to earn his way. I'm sure Shakur, Crawford, or Floyd would have beat plenty of the champions as well if given the chance immediately, but we will never know because they weren't driven in a limousine and walked down the red carpet in their third fight to a championship fight after losing their first.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by Rebelrbg View Post

                    You must be a Loma fanatic because for all that you stated comes from a slanted, excuse making point of view favorably to his path. Floyd, Crawford, or any of the top prospects when they entered couldn't have demanded a championship fight immediately in the lighter divisions, and their handlers were screaming how good they were from the beginning. Even Shakur had to prove himself to get a shot by becoming a mandatory or top contenders first. Loma was hand held to a championship, hell HE LOST his first fight, and was fighting for a belt by his third. Yes, he beat some of the champions, which the length of his career in the amateurs probably played a role in, but he should have had to earn his way. I'm sure Shakur, Crawford, or Floyd would have beat plenty of the champions as well if given the chance immediately, but we will never know because they weren't driven in a limousine and walked down the red carpet in their third fight to a championship fight after losing their first.
                    I'm still waiting for you to find me an article or some source showing that anyone of those fighters asked for a championship fight and were denied. Still waiting!!!

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                    • #90
                      Hard to disagree with Mikey's logic really, I see his point. I'm still not sold on Haney yet so I'd favor Loma but who knows

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