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  • Aracibo04
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    #41
    Originally posted by Mr._Pink
    there is nothing that cotto is better than floyd at.

    maybe slight power edge and a better killer instinct. that's about it.

    everything from height , reach , speed , skill , footwork , defense and even offense favors floyd.

    floyd might not go for the ko but his offensive skills are BEYOND cotto's.
    IMO floyd is not as accurate as cotto. when floyd is pressured he throws ****ty punches(castillo 1), the only time floyd is more accurate than cotto is when you let him stay outside or when he dances out of the way. Also, punch speed is not that much different IMO. Overall tho, I have to agree with you floyd has more skill.

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      #42
      Originally posted by Mr._Pink
      floyd has the skills and speed advantage to go with his size.

      cotto has size but the skills and speed goes to pac.
      See this is something I don't really understand.

      I don't see where, beyond Pac's god given hand and foot speed, his skills are so superior to Cotto's.

      If anything, I think Cotto clearly has better boxing skills. Cotto posseses a pace dictating job, he's a better counter puncher. Pac's got him on head movement.

      I mean I guess it's debatable, I personally think Cotto is more skilled and Pac has just had his god given talent harnessed by Roach. He's way more skilled than he used to be, but he's still more of a speedy brawler than anything.

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        #43
        Originally posted by Mr._Pink
        floyd has the skills and speed advantage to go with his size.

        cotto has size but the skills and speed goes to pac.
        skills go to pac? if you mean boxing skills I would disagree with you on that. manny just looks good because he is so fast but skills wise they are about the same.
        cotto is a very good boxer but you might not see it that way.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Aracibo04
          IMO floyd is not as accurate as cotto. when floyd is pressured he throws ****ty punches(castillo 1), the only time floyd is more accurate than cotto is when you let him stay outside or when he dances out of the way. Also, punch speed is not that much different IMO. Overall tho, I have to agree with you floyd has more skill.
          bud , cotto likes to fight up close and floyd fights from a distance and cotto throws more that's why it looks like he's more accurate and lands more.

          floyd is more accurate.



          and there is also a big difference in hand speed. i don't get where you get the idea of they're hand speed not being much different.

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            #45
            Originally posted by savorduhflavor
            See this is something I don't really understand.

            I don't see where, beyond Pac's god given hand and foot speed, his skills are so superior to Cotto's.

            If anything, I think Cotto clearly has better boxing skills. Cotto posseses a pace dictating job, he's a better counter puncher. Pac's got him on head movement.

            I mean I guess it's debatable, I personally think Cotto is more skilled and Pac has just had his god given talent harnessed by Roach. He's way more skilled than he used to be, but he's still more of a speedy brawler than anything.
            there's 2 types of skills. technical skills and natural skills.

            speed , power , etc. are natural skills.

            punching technique , head movement , footwork , etc. are technical skills.

            i think pacquiao edges him in both natural and technical skills.

            pacquiao might not box like most people think skilled boxers box but his punching technique , footwork , head movement , etc. are top notch.

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              #46
              Originally posted by Mr._Pink
              bud , cotto likes to fight up close and floyd fights from a distance and cotto throws more that's why it looks like he's more accurate and lands more.

              floyd is more accurate.



              and there is also a big difference in hand speed. i don't get where you get the idea of they're hand speed not being much different.
              we are in agreement in the bold...

              cotto's punching speed is deceptive and that comes from the fighter's overall movement. maybe coz he know how to shorten his punches in close up situations and that is what makes the speed deceptive.
              Last edited by Aracibo04; 09-21-2009, 12:07 AM.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Mr._Pink
                there's 2 types of skills. technical skills and natural skills.

                speed , power , etc. are natural skills.

                punching technique , head movement , footwork , etc. are technical skills.

                i think pacquiao edges him in both natural and technical skills.

                pacquiao might not box like most people think skilled boxers box but his punching technique , footwork , head movement , etc. are top notch.
                I agree with all of this, except I think Cotto is technically better skilled.

                In terms of natural skills, I agree Pac as got that one pretty clearly.

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                  #48
                  I'm favoring Pac but...I don't know how he'll react when Cotto lands a good shot on him...which will happen cuz Pac isn't the type to stay outta danger all night...

                  And Cotto has shown he can be weared down...Pac may not have the one punch power to hurt him but accumulation of punches can doom him...especially if he can't find Pac...

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by mic573
                    On Nov.14th Cotto will silence all talk of Mayweather/Pacquiao in my opinion.
                    i think.. pac will silence cotto

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by rob_tC
                      nah! here in puerto rico everyone's relaxed about the upcoming fight with pac. everyone i've talked to, they're all a 100% sure cotto is going to beat pac easily. i share the same thought. i'm really thinking about what's coming after the fight with pac. i'm excited about pac-cotto, but just looking forward to it to see manny get ko'd so perhaps the bandwagon stops. but i know cotto should take it easily.. we've followed the guy through his entire career and have no doubt he'll be able to handle manny and cause severe damage to the guy.

                      the guy has fought with warriors.. he's been in wars.. he's been hit by real welterweights. no punch of mannys will hurt him.. and manny has never felt the power of a true welter like cotto. it's really a lop sided fight in my eyes. can't wait for november 14th to finally hear what cotto wants and what their plans will be.

                      well, here in the phillipines?
                      everyone ive talked to, theyre all exited whos going to be next victim after he finished cotto.. hahahaha

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