Comments Thread For: Team Haney: This Narrative That You Don't Have To Be A Champion, That's a Falsehood

[DClefthook]

I have a very good way to quickly fix this. Drop the sanctioning bodies because you don't need them anyway. WTF do they do besides plaster their names allover the ring. ESPN FOX and Showtime are perfectly capable of hosting their own events without the help of a sanctioning body. Al and Bob should join forces and create their own belts. Let Hearn and El Spatula have all the belts. Win Win for everyone.

[Shadoww702]

I can't believe anyone would pay 3% to the WBA and their 100+ title belts??

I mean in the same division they're collecting 3% from Wood and 3% from Santa Cruz.

Double dipping scumbags.

[Cypocryphy]

I have a very good way to quickly fix this. Drop the sanctioning bodies because you don't need them anyway. WTF do they do besides plaster their names allover the ring. ESPN FOX and Showtime are perfectly capable of hosting their own events without the help of a sanctioning body. Al and Bob should join forces and create their own belts. Let Hearn and El Spatula have all the belts. Win Win for everyone.

The sanctioning bodies, whether you like it or not, create a framework for boxers to fight the best in the division. It doesn't work that way all the time, but it does most of the time, at least forcing the best to fight the best (which means the best who are backed by a promotional company). It doesn't necessarily mean the best fight the best because there are some very good boxers out there who don't have promotional company backing, but those are rare exceptions. And Mayweather found a way to circumnavigate the suctioning bodies but not completely, which is why Tank has gone after a bunch of junior varsity belts. It is also why Mayweather keeps marketing Tank as a three-division champion when he's not.

[MulaKO]

The sanctioning bodies, whether you like it or not, create a framework for boxers to fight the best in the division. It doesn't work that way all the time, but it does most of the time, at least forcing the best to fight the best (which means the best who are backed by a promotional company). It doesn't necessarily mean the best fight the best because there are some very good boxers out there who don't have promotional company backing, but those are rare exceptions. And Mayweather found a way to circumnavigate the suctioning bodies but not completely, which is why Tank has gone after a bunch of junior varsity belts. It is also why Mayweather keeps marketing Tank as a three-division champion when he's not.

Sorry brother but that’s load of crap
I see what your trying to justify but rarely happens
Most of the time it’s the sanctioning bodies who stop us from getting the best vs the best
That is a fact

[Cypocryphy]

Sorry brother but that’s load of crap
I see what your trying to justify but rarely happens
Most of the time it’s the sanctioning bodies who stop us from getting the best vs the best
That is a fact

Well, I can imagine boxing without sanctioning bodies, and it would be completely chaotic. Every sport has a system of awarding the best. Football. Soccer. Tennis. Wrestling. The Olympics. Could you imagine the Olympics without the possibility of winning gold, silver or bronze? Boxers are motivated by recognition, and belts (awards) go a long way toward that recognition. Without the sanctioning bodies or some system of ranking and awarding boxers, the sport would be in shambles.

[DClefthook]

Sorry brother but that’s load of crap
I see what your trying to justify but rarely happens
Most of the time it’s the sanctioning bodies who stop us from getting the best vs the best
That is a fact

Damn you responded before I could but you're exactly right. Looks like he cut and pasted an article str8t off of WBC.com. ESPN FOX and Showtime are more than capable of "creating a framework for boxers to fight in the best division". If the bodies forced the best to fight the best then why haven't we been getting all the fights we've wanted over the past 5 yrs? And don't even get me started with the WBA and their racist judges picking and choosing who advances to the next level based on skin color and nationality. Please!

[MulaKO]

Well, I can imagine boxing without sanctioning bodies, and it would be completely chaotic. Every sport has a system of awarding the best. Football. Soccer. Tennis. Wrestling. The Olympics. Could you imagine the Olympics without the possibility of winning gold, silver or bronze? Boxers are motivated by recognition, and belts (awards) go a long way toward that recognition. Without the sanctioning bodies or some system of ranking and awarding boxers, the sport would be in shambles.

I agree that there must be some structure but not the way the system is now
In the Olympics , there is one gold not two
One silver and so on
Don’t gotta look further than the UFC , one belt and that’s it
You never hear that a ufc fighter isn’t fighting so and so cause they blocked it
Instead in boxing it happens every second week

[Cypocryphy]

I agree that there must be some structure but not the way the system is now
In the Olympics , there is one gold not two
One silver and so on
Don’t gotta look further than the UFC , one belt and that’s it
You never hear that a ufc fighter isn’t fighting so and so cause they blocked it
Instead in boxing it happens every second week

That's true. Definitely. I think boxing needs to have one governing organization but that'll never happen because boxing is so global. But who knows ... because Nevada is the nexus now, maybe something like that could happen.

[DClefthook]

Well, I can imagine boxing without sanctioning bodies, and it would be completely chaotic. Every sport has a system of awarding the best. Football. Soccer. Tennis. Wrestling. The Olympics. Could you imagine the Olympics without the possibility of winning gold, silver or bronze? Boxers are motivated by recognition, and belts (awards) go a long way toward that recognition. Without the sanctioning bodies or some system of ranking and awarding boxers, the sport would be in shambles.

Terrible analogy using the other sports to bolster your arguments. The one single reason why boxing is chaotic is because of the sanctioning bodies. Can you imagine the NFL NBA MLB WTA with sanctioning bodies where decisions are being made by the presidents of ten different organizations who all have different interest for the sport? Hell no! Those sports thrive and succeed because they have one figurehead and a governing body with the same interest for the sport. If Al, Bob and even El Spatula were to join forces and become one boxing league with one head and a governing body with ESPN FOX and CBS/Showtime as the networks, boxing would be in a much better place than it's ever been.

[MulaKO]

That's true. Definitely. I think boxing needs to have one governing organization but that'll never happen because boxing is so global. But who knows ... because Nevada is the nexus now, maybe something like that could happen.

I would even just go with the Ring belt
No sanctioning fees there