Comments Thread For: Team Haney: This Narrative That You Don't Have To Be A Champion, That's a Falsehood

[Grandma Pleaser]

Tank and Garcia might be able to beat Haney, but they don't have the desire to challenge themselves like Haney has done and probably will achieve less as a result. I think Tank has collected more interim WBA titles than anybody in history though so that's something.

I must have missed some fights. Who exactly did hankey challenge himself with?

Also his father sounds like a moron. Can't stand that classless clown

[BoxingIsGreat]

Bill Haney is a dummy and shameless, especially after that franchise BS with Sulaiman. Also, it's not all about the fees, either, it's about their corruption, favoritism and the multiple meaningless belts. No guiding rules or principles. These orgs can do whatever they want. Belts are on sale to the highest bidder.

[MulaKO]

Those trinkets don’t matter

Floyd always dropped belts outside of the WBC because that sanctioning fee money would go directly to his pocket..

Same as Miguel Cotto dropping the WBC middleweight title on the eve of his fight with Canelo because he refused to pay the WBC $300k..

This Haney guy doesn’t grasp the concept that the money he’s negotiating out of his budget would simply go into his pocket without those trinkets. People like Haney need those belts because they have no fanbase & they can’t sell a ticket to save their life.

Exactly
Who gives a chit who’s paying when that money can go in your pocket
You make a very valid point though for their need of a belt

[SteveM]

For a very few fighters, like one in ten thousand, they don't need belts. For all the rest, including Haney, having a belt means THEY get more money from networks than they would if they didn't have belts. And as we see with Spence and his current negotiations, having 3 belts gives more leverage than one belt.

Essentially, 89% of 5 million is more than 100% of 3 million or even 100% of 4 million.

[SteveM]

Those trinkets don’t matter

Floyd always dropped belts outside of the WBC because that sanctioning fee money would go directly to his pocket..

Same as Miguel Cotto dropping the WBC middleweight title on the eve of his fight with Canelo because he refused to pay the WBC $300k..

This Haney guy doesn’t grasp the concept that the money he’s negotiating out of his budget would simply go into his pocket without those trinkets. People like Haney need those belts because they have no fanbase & they can't sell a ticket to save their life.

IF Haney can defend his belts at 135 a couple of times and then grab a couple of belts at 140 he'll have his fair share of fans by then and be able to headline at MSG or in Vegas - and that's assuming he stays fighting like he does now. If his KO rate goes up like Jermell has then what I just outlined will play out in fast forward.

[SteveM]

Bill Haney it's only obvious that your all over Maurice Sulaiman nuts!!! Anybody that's been in the Boxing business knows that the sanctioning fee come out of fighter's purses that's why it's called a percentage of the fighters purse!!!

it's calculated as a percentage of the fighter's purse - who pays it is another matter

[SteveM]

Without a belt, there's many a dangerous fighter who can't get 'big' fights at they are avoided. They can't even get fights with other contenders.

Prime example Hgrovic. Without being in the IBFs rankings he wouldn't even have got a fight with Zhang. For all their double talk and corruption the belt orgs do bring structure for the majority of the fighters.

Also' Ennis needs a belt or two (in his case I think he'll be avoided even if he wins a belt). Alimkhanuly can't get a fight. Ernesto Mercado is avoided even now. Having a belt will help all of then get bigger paydays and more challenging fights.

[Cypocryphy]

So what Tank and Ryan are really saying is that Floyd and De La Hoya are broke and can't afford a champion fighter. Got it.

[-Kev-]

Devin Haney is young and naive when it comes professional boxing and the business of it.

Andre Ward and Floyd Mayweather Jr. know a lot more about the sport and the belts than Haney does and they think nothing of them. It wasn’t an “honor” for them, it was a really bad necessity that left a bad taste in their mouths.

Championship titles in boxing is as much a necessity as a teen having to get his feet wet with any job he can get, so he goes to work for McDonald’s.

The reason for this is because there are like 7 or 8 belts per weight class and this leads to damn near every single fight being a “championship” fight.

If there was 1 belt per weight class, championship titles will have much more support.

I understand UFC is basically one big promotional company, but still, their 1 belt per weight class makes UFC look like old school boxing. Today, UFC is what boxing used to be decades ago. And today, boxing is like an old actor who has had to many botched plastic surgeries and just looks weird af and uncomfortable to look at in the face.

[Kannabis Kid]

Devin Haney is young and naive when it comes professional boxing and the business of it.

Andre Ward and Floyd Mayweather Jr. know a lot more about the sport and the belts than Haney does and they think nothing of them. It wasn’t an “honor” for them, it was a really bad necessity that left a bad taste in their mouths.

Championship titles in boxing is as much a necessity as a teen having to get his feet wet with any job he can get, so he goes to work for McDonald’s.

The reason for this is because there are like 7 or 8 belts per weight class and this leads to damn near every single fight being a “championship” fight.

If there was 1 belt per weight class, championship titles will have much more support.

I understand UFC is basically one big promotional company, but still, their 1 belt per weight class makes UFC look like old school boxing. Today, UFC is what boxing used to be decades ago. And today, boxing is like an old actor who has had to many botched plastic surgeries and just looks weird af and uncomfortable to look at in the face.

UFC has interim belts and they strip fighters as they see convenient so bad example.

I don't take anything Haney says seriously anymore first it's the belts matter then he drops the ring magazine belt because he threw a tantrum when he wasn't in the top 5.