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  • #31
    What was going in in AJ's corner?? I couldn't tell who was the actual trainer?? It was a sht show.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by chicken- View Post

      His championship aspirations have disappeared for the foreseeable future until Usyk/Fury/Wilder/Joyce no longer stand in his way. I believe all 4 of those fighters dismantle AJ with ease. (Throw in Ruiz if he decides to actually train for more than 2 weeks for photo opportunities before going back to shoveling food in his face like he normally does). Lots of big money fights still there for AJ. If I were managing him I'd start with the Dillian Whyte rematch since Whyte is such garbage that even AJ can KO him in order to secure another pay day.

      I expect Fury to beat AJ, but there will be nothing easy about it.

      I don’t believe WIlder has more than a 50% chance of winning (just as likely he gets beaten up to a stoppage as it is he finishes Joshua in one foul swoop; and that’s without considering that Joshua’s only been stopped once).


      Furthermore, try as I might, and much as I love Joyce, I can’t see any way that he wins this.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by TheOneAboveAll View Post

        Completely agree with this. AJ had many opportunities to be physical with Usyk (grab, hook his arm and punch, shoulder and punch, push and punch, etc), but he just doesn’t have that instinct. Despite his size he just does not trust his chin enough to be willing to take one to give one. He simply can’t fight dirty enough to contend with Usyk. Not being willing to exchange means you have to be able to outbox the other guy, and that was never going to happen.
        I think he does have the instinct, but? He is overly concerned with being a clean fighter. Somebody needs to tell him, that this is not the amateur game anymore.

        Do whatever it takes to win, push the boundaries of sportsman.

        Also I think in boxing these days, there is a lack of old school trainers. Rough house tactics are a vital skill in boxing, Fury has been taught these skills by his people.

        Being in and around bare knuckle fighters and street fighters, he has most likely picked up on rough house tactics and taken it into the ring.

        Fury vs USS Cunningham, was a brilliant displaying of rough house fighting.

        I still think Joshua in terms of brute strength, is stronger than Fury or at least a par with him inside the ring.

        Joshua had the ability to make that fight complete and utter chaos on the weekend. Instead he fought a fair and clean fight.

        When Joshua ****** Usyk on the hip, he had a look on his face almost saying 'Sorry'.

        All of this is all wrong for the professional game, you cannot be apologetic inside the ring.

        People need to also be clear in Usyk's boxing skills, for all of Joshua's flaws 'Skill for skill he was not miles away from Usyk'.

        This has got to be concerning for Usyk, going in against Fury.

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        • #34
          the thing about fighting smart boxers in the ring is the post fight examination of what could have been done better, pressed more, body shots, bully, feints, joshua is a bit of a cautious over thinker combined with a few stamina issues and emotionally not the strongest either, there is not just one issue holding him back

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          • #35
            Originally posted by P to the J View Post

            Huh, what does being Mexican have to do with all this?

            Angel Fernandez? He’s Spanish!
            Why would you take a prime commodity cash cow like AJ who needs serious fixing to two trainers who have absolutely ZERO experience with a top-flight heavyweight? This looks like a cultural decision to me. No way, Garcia (ZERO) and Reynoso (Ruiz was betting buckled by a journeyman) should have been #1 and #2 on the list. Even the Heavyweight Factory in Florida would have been more logical. Banks is from the same school as Hill. Then you have the fool Garcia talking about Mexican drive at the end of the fight. Go watch the video and read the comments under it. Even the people in the comments were like what the hell is he talking about? AJ isn't Mexican. Know before you come sideways. Better go watch how Stewart dealt with Vlad at end of the fights. You got paid to take over the corner. JOKE!
            Last edited by hhh1200; 08-28-2022, 11:27 AM.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by chicken- View Post

              His championship aspirations have disappeared for the foreseeable future until Usyk/Fury/Wilder/Joyce no longer stand in his way. I believe all 4 of those fighters dismantle AJ with ease. (Throw in Ruiz if he decides to actually train for more than 2 weeks for photo opportunities before going back to shoveling food in his face like he normally does). Lots of big money fights still there for AJ. If I were managing him I'd start with the Dillian Whyte rematch since Whyte is such garbage that even AJ can KO him in order to secure another pay day.
              Mate all these fighters you have mentioned are inconsistent. When I say inconsistent, I am talking about their form, work ethic, attitude and desire to be in the game.

              I will reiterate once again? Anthony Joshua is going to out last all these top fighters from his generation 'Not the guys up and coming, I am talking about the fighters who came through the ranks with him' He will out last them, Ruiz Junior has already dropped away.

              Make that third Ruiz Junior vs Joshua fight, and I believe Joshua will beat him down as if Ruiz Junior stole his pack launch.
              Tyson Fury is inconsistent in his attitude, work ethic and conditioning from fight to fight. If Fury suffers one loss, I am unsure how he will cope with such a impact.

              I have always compared Tyson Fury to Prince Naseem Hamed, once these guys get beat 'They are so insulted, they may lose all passion for the game'.

              Plus factor in that Fury, has already climbed his Everest 'Nothing ever tops beating Wladimir Kiltschko'.

              Only Usyk is consistent with his conditioning, but I sense he wants out of he game once he gets past Fury 'If he gets past Fury'.

              On the sly, people know what I am saying is correct. They know Fury is 1 fight away from wanting out the game. They know all these guys are inconsistent.

              Even Joe Joyce is inconsistent with his conditioning.

              For all the mocking Joshua gets, the man has near psychopathic work ethic. If his attitude was transported into Tyson Fury, it would ether transcend Tyson Fury into unseen limits of violence or completely break him.

              Tyson Fury is a professional athlete, world heavyweight Champion. Who before the Wilder II fight, Fury during a live ESPN broadcast? Had to let all the viewers know that he had made sacrifices for his up and coming fight 'Those sacrifices he was talking about, was that he had cut back on drinking diet cokes or coca cola'.

              That is completely pathetic, and you know it.

              Note: People must understand, people and fighters like Anthony Joshua are not just going to disappear. You people don't know anybody like him, never mind the people you pine over in your local commercial gym, Joshua is not completely normal. Give it a few weeks, and he is going to be back in the gym, he is going to be back obsessing over Uysk, Fury, and all the other top fighters and contenders out there 'He is to his credit going to be obsessing on how to improve' that's just how it is.










              Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 08-28-2022, 12:42 PM.

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              • #37
                Garcia is talking himself out of a job and many multi-million dollar paydays as a coach.

                Just STFU and work with your fighter instead of being critical to the media.

                Joshua was YOUR responsibility. Why are you talking like you are complete strangers?

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                • #38
                  Roberto Garcia going full Abel Sanchez

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by CasperUK View Post
                    Garcia is talking himself out of a job and many multi-million dollar paydays as a coach.

                    Just STFU and work with your fighter instead of being critical to the media.

                    Joshua was YOUR responsibility. Why are you talking like you are complete strangers?
                    Right on. Shouldn't Garcia have been in AJ's ear telling him to up the pressure earlier if that's what the situation called for?

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                    • #40
                      Sorry, but the fight wasn't a close one. AJ did better than in the first fight but Usyk won convincingly. We all know that AJ has been fighting a lot more "careful" after getting TKOed by Ruiz in the first fight. AJ wasn't going to "apply more pressure" because he is too worried, suspecting his own chin and getting KOed. Not a single person that knows boxing has agreed with the judge that scored it in AJ's favor.

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