Bivol really isn't that good to be frank

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  • _Rexy_
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    #81
    Originally posted by Regge
    He's not all that but Canelo coming in overconfident made Bivol seem like he's special. Canelo is the better fighter and he'll prove it in the rematch.
    The rematch he ducked to pull a semi retired middleweight up a division?

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      #82
      Originally posted by club fighter

      Hypocrisy is something I don't absorb very well, your first reply about my music was positive, but after getting angry all you could do was throw insults. You seem to love verbal combat more than most, and from the way you get spanked around on your own opinion threads, maybe a little masochistic.

      You should go back to reposting Youtube vids, they go over better.
      War Loon is exploring his feminine side. Snitching to mods... trying to get other members into beefs... Crying to the mods at the slightest perceived slight... Here is War Loon appearing to get the warriors into a scuffle

      https://********/w1i2ehskGUM

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      • club fighter
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        #83
        Originally posted by billeau2

        War Loon is exploring his feminine side. Snitching to mods... trying to get other members into beefs... Crying to the mods at the slightest perceived slight... Here is War Loon appearing to get the warriors into a scuffle

        https://********/w1i2ehskGUM
        The Warriors & The Wanderers, best teen gang flix from back in the day.

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          #84
          Originally posted by HeadShots


          COPE.


          he beat all belt holders at SMV and knocked out Kov at LHW.

          he's elite.
          Elite my a r s e....

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          • billeau2
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            #85
            Originally posted by club fighter

            The Warriors & The Wanderers, best teen gang flix from back in the day.
            Agreed! Gangs in the 1950's and then in the 1970's lol.

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              #86
              Originally posted by War Room

              I literally haven't lost once, maybe one but it's so far back I can't remember, but in this thread I'm dominating every single volley. You got handled in the guitar thread because you made false claims and once cornered you would not simply admit it. You're mentally ill, tell us you haven't been diagnosed with a mental ailment?

              Last edited by billeau2; 08-26-2022, 03:42 PM.

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              • club fighter
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                #87
                Originally posted by billeau2


                You gotta psyche yourself up sometimes I guess.

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                • JakeTheBoxer
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by War Room
                  Once he steps into the big fights with A- and A+ level fighters, I think a lot of people are going to abandon ship on this guy.

                  And who would that be, at 168 -175?

                  Bivol beats Charlo and Andrade really bad. GGG also. Only Artur has a chance.

                  You are posting like there are many guys around better than Bivol. Name them.

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                  • War Room
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer

                    And who would that be, at 168 -175?

                    Bivol beats Charlo and Andrade really bad. GGG also. Only Artur has a chance.

                    You are posting like there are many guys around better than Bivol. Name them.
                    I haven't discussed smw at all. All I'll say is this - if he could somehow drop to smw (almost impossible), I'm sure he would dominate. There isn't a lot of talent at lhw (I've posted that 2-3x in this same thread), so you've only got 2 legit A level guys right? Beterbiev & Zurdo. We got to see those fights.

                    Charlo & Andrade are 2 classes below and GGG =---> he's been at 160 his whole life, Bivol has been 2 classes up. Not sure why you're bringing up guys from 2 weight classes below. Bivol been a lhw long before the pro's too so it's not like he's moving up, he's a natural lhw.

                    He could always move to cw he feels like he's done everything he can do at lhw. Some really good fights there and to be honest, when a fighter stews in the same division his whole career, you got to lower their all time rating. This is an era where becoming a true atg is you have to move out of your comfort zone, you HAVE to move up! Guys like Calzaghe are pretty over-rated because they never took the plunge. I like Joe, but he never really tested himself.

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                    • Cypocryphy
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by War Room

                      Again, was 200% was going to say no because you ***********ed me on the first one and guess what, you did it again lol. An entire fight of punch landed in 4:28. Give me the full fight and we can have a more respectable dialogue on this. That metal head can cut whatever he wants out. Let's get serious here lol.



                      You're lying. He had a labrum tear which is a SLAP tear, it's painless, and there is no impingement or mobility issue. I had it in both shoulders and the only time it hurt was when I fully tore the second one, it was like a quick pinch that's it. I walked around for 2 years with my first SLAP tear and didn't even know it was torn. I went in for something else and they found the tear. They only repaired it because I had other things going on in there.

                      So yea my guy, fake news, user testimonial from someone that's thrown millions of punches over the years.
                      With regard to a full video, fair enough. I wanted to do that but am coming up with a way to (1) make the time and (2) not doxx myself. We'll see. Actually, with regard to Salido, Loma almost stopped him, had Salido on his hands and knees at the end there. And he did this with more than 72 blows to the gonads. Salido was using his nut sack like a speed bag.

                      As to a labrum tear, I've had several orthoscopic surgeries. I had my knees done too. It was a surgery that others said they were up and back running a week later. So of course I thought this was going to be a piece of cake and I'd be back working out within two weeks tops. But no. I was in a wheelchair for a month and a half. It took me six months before I could walk fast and almost a year before I could run again. But apparently these other guys were up and running in a week, so ... the point being is that people's experiences vary.

                      Second of all, it was not a "labrum tear." It was worse than that.

                      Here:
                      It turns out he had badly bruised the rotator cuff and chipped a piece of cartilage, which we didn’t realize at the time. But we knew he’d badly bruised the rotator cuff and badly bruised the bone where the rotator cuff attaches to the shoulder. That was roughly six weeks before the fight and we got him to where he was comfortable enough to train. He said he was able to train OK, but it continued to cause him pain during the fight." (Yahoo Sports.com)

                      I also chipped my elbow when I used to skate, and I couldn't turn my elbow. I did a hand plant and came in too fast and bad angle. It was just a chip, but it was over the top in terms of pain when I would move my elbow. Just a bone chip. Right? Still prevented me from doing much of anything with that arm.

                      And I'm not lying. My right shoulder is messed up. Even now it still constantly pops, and I struggle with certain movements without it getting sore. Also, there are various way you can suffer tears. The labrum can tear a few different ways: 1) completely off the bone, 2) within or along the edge of the labrum, or 3) where the bicep tendon attaches. Just saying ...

                      By the way, what Loma had is called a Bankart Tear, which occurs almost invariably from a dislocated shoulder. Some people experience little pain and some experience a lot of pain. If you look at people talking about this particular injury, you'll see one guy say he had hardly any pain but only when he use certain movements and was more worried about the injury getting worse. And then you had another guy who was in significant pain and was all about having surgery just to stop the pain.

                      So we can't assume what someone else is experiencing.

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