Comments Thread For: Usyk Handler On Promotional Status: 'We Have Got No Other Commitments With Matchroom'

[RoadMan94]

You don't need to discuss football to talk and think like a football fan.

It shows in the way you treat boxing as a team sport, supporting your "side" whatever the facts may be, pigeon holing anybody who doesn't agree with you as a fan of some other team. I know the way it works. I grew up with lads like you. I just never fancied being part of that scene myself.

FYI, I expected Usyk to beat AJ and I was rooting for him in their fight. Nothing against AJ. I'm glad he put up such a good fight and didn't get stopped, but I've been a big fan of Usyk since the WBSS cruiserweight tournament. He's a special fighter and a great character, as is Fury.

This is what you aren’t getting kaftkod. I’m on my own side. I’m my own CEO, coach and captain.

It’s you deluded trolls on here that gang up. You literally need ya best team mate green eye to back you on every post.

Do you even think before you speak? RJJ has taken you to school. Denium has taken you to school.

Every time you think you’ve made a point. Someone comes in, tears that argument up and all you say is, b b b but Joshua said he did it.

you go from so assured to backstroking and backpeddling like no tomorrow. Anybody can read through this thread and see I’m not lying.

that’s why you gone from talking boxing to talking about football. It’s shows you have a short attention span and you just do not know how to hold a debate.

Id probably watch so YouTube videos and teach yourself. You are way to flaky and move goalposts every single time you don’t have a acceptable answer.

You are like a toddler who finds 30 different ways to ask for a chocolate bar before they’ve had their dinner. Get a grip and stay on topic you little dingleberry.

[RoadMan94]

Ruiz was supposed to be a soft touch, and Usyk was. Mandatory


But yes, major props to AJ for cleaning out the heavyweights of the prior generation. The Povetkins, Pulev’s and Takam’s were major threats

These guys really believe that Eddie and Joshua really tried making their fill in opp the hardest they could possibly find on 3 weeks notice!

If that isn’t brainwashed I dunno what Qualifies as it. This fanbase have been indoctrinated to a point where I have no qualms labelling them a cult. Everything about them screams Cult.

[RoadMan94]

So. Fighters vacate belts for mandatories all the time. He also took the immediate rematch against Usyk, when many would have not. I agree with Ruiz but **** happens.

LOL Your words not mine bro, there better names than Stiverne and Spilka and Schwartz for sure tho, you can take that to the bank.

See! You guys are so weak it’s hilarious. When ya point is blown out the water you all come back with “so” or “ So what if your right I like AJ and I like eddie so I’m going to continue to ignore the facts and I’ll stay brainwashed and keep arguing with you despite the fact you’ve proven I’m wrong but , like, SO WHAT!!!


The cult has ended matey. The leader has left and now your all like a bunch of lost ducks following anybody who passes just looking for guidance. Lmfao. KYS!!

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Eddie Eddie Eddie ...

How old are you, son?

He’s not involved mate. He blew it. Get over it.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Not really excuses, just what happened bro.

I hear you but Fury and Wilder needed each other at the time as their resumes stank and their teams effectively blacklisted Joshua purely down to it seems their hatred of Eddie Hearn.

Let’s be real now, Wilder’s team only initially took the Fury fight because he was massively overweight and they thought he was going to be light work, after finessing fury of the victory they stumbled onto a lucrative set of rematches. But it is what it is.

Fury defo deserves credit for his victories, but he statpads too much and as of this year has only made 2 world title defences in his career read into that what you will. He also ducked the Wlad rematch and then got popped for PEDs which again doesn’t look great. Never bought the whole depression narrative the timelines are too convenient.

I agree about AJ not being in the away corner, to be fair to him tho, when you’re making double digit millions after 18 fights and giving guys record paydays why should you have to travel?

I also agree Ruiz was meant to be easy work, but no boxing fan was calling Usyk too small and/or an easy touch, only AJ fanboys and casuals were saying that. He was always going to be a nightmare for Joshua stylistically, just like he will be for Fury, difference being Fury has the ring IQ and the inside game to get the job done.

Joshua never fought his rivals and history will remember that. I get the politics side of it but at some point you have to take ownership of your career. Arum and Haymon don’t get a long, but Team Wilder and Team Fury found a way to make the fight the fans wanted. Joshua didn’t.

[kafkod]

This is what you aren’t getting kaftkod. I’m on my own side. I’m my own CEO, coach and captain.

It’s you deluded trolls on here that gang up. You literally need ya best team mate green eye to back you on every post.

Do you even think before you speak? RJJ has taken you to school. Denium has taken you to school.

Every time you think you’ve made a point. Someone comes in, tears that argument up and all you say is, b b b but Joshua said he did it.

you go from so assured to backstroking and backpeddling like no tomorrow. Anybody can read through this thread and see I’m not lying.

that’s why you gone from talking boxing to talking about football. It’s shows you have a short attention span and you just do not know how to hold a debate.

Id probably watch so YouTube videos and teach yourself. You are way to flaky and move goalposts every single time you don’t have a acceptable answer.

You are like a toddler who finds 30 different ways to ask for a chocolate bar before they’ve had their dinner. Get a grip and stay on topic you little dingleberry.

I've been friends with Denium at this place since before you even started watching boxing, you ignorant clown. Or do you even watch boxing at all? All you ever talk about here is Eddie Eddie Eddie, rematchroom rematchroom, AJ fanboys AJ fanboys, DAZN going bust, blah blah blah.

Get a life you sad ****.

[kafkod]

He’s not involved mate. He blew it. Get over it.

I don't understand where you're coming from with this. Usyk is just too good for AJ. How exactly does that equate to AJ's promoter blowing it? He got his fighter the biggest fight possible, for a huge pay cheque, with an even bigger fight waiting for him if he'd won. What more is a promoter supposed to do?

[kafkod]

So fury coming back after 3 years out had 7 months active and went straight back in with the most dangerous heavyweight of an era and a heavyweight AJ and Eddie did everything To avoid.

Joshua has taken more risks by fighting a andy ruiz and a Cruiserweight? You spin doctors aren’t even decent at your job.

why was Joseph Parker worth 33.5% of the pie but wilder was only allowed 12 Mill?

Wilder sold out arenas in America. Parker had sold out in New Zealand which is easy to do. So you tell me why did Eddie feel fine to pay Parker but wouldn’t pay wilder?

Despite the rumours going round at the time, Parker got around £6million for fighting AJ.

Wilder's biggest purse back then was around $2million, and the only arena's he sold out were bingo halls in Alabama.

[kafkod]

Joshua never fought his rivals and history will remember that. I get the politics side of it but at some point you have to take ownership of your career. Arum and Haymon don’t get a long, but Team Wilder and Team Fury found a way to make the fight the fans wanted. Joshua didn’t.

AJ fought all his rivals, except the ones who didn't fight him.

Deontay Wilder to Tyson Fury: "You know I was offered more money to fight Joshua than I was getting to fight you"

And why talk about history when the story isn't over? The big 4 in the HW division are all active. The history of this era is still to be written - in the ring.

[MastaBlasta]

It's ridiculous that the brits and hearniacs on this forum keep whining that DAZN offered Wilder $100 million to fight Joshua. It's not true. They offered $100 to control Wilder's next three or four fights, of which they implied that the last one might be Joshua. As I remember it, there were no guarantees Wilder would fight AJ, and it certainly wasn't going to be the first fight of the "package". So the whining is off base. Team Wilder offered AJ the $50 million he asked for (hearn confiormed the money was there) and he and Matchroom passed on it. Period.

I don't thiunk AJ ever got a $50 million guarantee for any other fight. So no amount of after-the-fact "spin" is ever gpoing to change anything. It is ridiculous to say Matchroom or AJ wanted to unify with Wilder at that time. They didn't Period. It's a fact that history will always confirm.

It's even more ridiculous to claim that Team Wilder (including Al Haymon) didn't want to unify the titles. They made the offer to AJ ... fior $50 million .... with no strings, no control of AJ's future fights, no rematch .... nothing.To recite a bunch of rubbish concerning that fight that missed unification is pointless in light of the historic fact.

But so many in the UK and the hearniacs continue (probably forever) to spin it some other kind of way. All those BS "counter-offers" to save face, that were made by Matchroom and DAZN are meaningless.