AJ and his outburst

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

None of what you wrote has any relevance to what I just wrote. Are you capable of introspection? Just remember, whatever Joshua did or didn't do, you were just staring passively at a screen again.

Ruiz was in the exact same position AJ was. He acted with class and dignity, AJ didn’t. Are you incapable of using comparative logic?

The moment should have been about Usyk dedicating his victory to his country, a country under siege, fighting a senseless war they had no choice in. Instead it was about some cardboard gangster ranting about “busting cases” and “shouting out Bengo and G14”.

Whichever way you wanna spin it AJ acted like a classless fool and he has to stand on that.

[Dakuwaqa]

Usyk has far more going on than AJ ever will have and he dealt with the pressure. It’s like when people make excuses for Mike against Douglas despite Douglas having a far more tumultuous preparation than Mike had.

At the end of the day, AJ got his ass beat then hijacked Usyk’s moment, went on some bizarre rant and acted like a clown.

We can understand why he did it, with all the pressure and the weight of expectation but we can’t just excuse it. Mr “stay humble” acted like self-important d***head when he had no right to, so he has to man up and deal with the consequences.

Such a basic way of thinking

'My brother also has cancer but he can walk, why can't you?'

[billeau2]

A justification and an explanation are not the same thing. Usyk didn't lose so you can't claim to know how he would have reacted.

Yeah but the tone of your posts is such that you are excusing AJ in the minds of many, myself included. You are even snarky about this thread, which was supposed to be a way for people to accept that AJ was wrong, but not a horrid sort for being so...

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

AJ showed shame... Shame is what gives a person validity in so far as apologizing... that is an ancient recipe! AJ was wrong, and BTW many fighters in similar heat, etc did not lose it ahem... But he is not mentally unstable. Usyk understood. usyk gave Joshua that space to accept the situation and AJ has.

A part of me feels for AJ, he was always set up for failure. He was never the guy they told us he was and he probably got caught in the hype himself. AJ is actually a massive overachiever IMO, certainly based on his talent level. Unfortunately, Sky, Matchroom etc built him up to be something he never could be.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Such a basic way of thinking

'My brother also has cancer but he can walk, why can't you?'

What exactly does AJ have going on that justifies his actions?

[dan-b]

Ruiz was in the exact same position AJ was.

I would strongly dispute that actually, especially given you brought "comparative logic" into the equation. The only way they could be in the "exact same position" is if you reduce their comparative positions to the outcome of the fight only.

In any case, this is all academic. I've said many times what Joshua did was embarrassing (I actually cut the sound I found it so cringeworthy) but on a human level I get it. He's not doubled down, he obviously regrets it and he goes again. Meanwhile, most boxing fans will be staring passively at screens whilst he does it.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

I would strongly dispute that actually, especially given you brought "comparative logic" into the equation. The only way they could be in the "exact same position" is if you reduce their comparative positions to the outcome of the fight only.

In any case, this is all academic. I've said many times what Joshua did was embarrassing (I actually cut the sound I found it so cringeworthy) but on a human level I get it. He's not doubled down, he obviously regrets it and he goes again. Meanwhile, most boxing fans will be staring passively at screens whilst he does it.

Both lost a rematch, in the same division, in the same place, for the same titles. Yeah nothing comparative about that at all…

As I said, we can understand it but we can’t just excuse it, people have every right to criticise AJ for what he did. When you do what he did in the public eye it comes with the territory.

[Dakuwaqa]

What exactly does AJ have going on that justifies his actions?

Thats my point 'emotions affect us all differently'

We are beautifully unique and react differently

Our boiling points aren't all set at 100 degrees.

What might get a smile at of one person gets a slap from another etc

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Thats my point 'emotions affect us all differently'

We are beautifully unique and react differently

Our boiling points aren't all set at 100 degrees.

What might get a smile at of one person gets a slap from another etc

That’s all well and good but when you act like a classless pr*** in the public eye be prepared to deal with the consequences that come with it.

I understand why AJ did it, but that doesn’t mean people can’t criticise his actions. As I said he has to own what he did and he has for the most part.

[dan-b]

Thats my point 'emotions affect us all differently'

We are beautifully unique and react differently

Our boiling points aren't all set at 100 degrees.

What might get a smile at of one person gets a slap from another etc

Don't bother trying to reason. This is the online space where the smallest concession is seen as "weak", "beta" or "gay".