Punch stats Hrgovic vs Zhang

[Nash out]

Jabs landed	40	5
Jabs thrown	327	88
Power landed	168	149

Here are the punch stats. Hrgovic out jabbed and out landed Zhang . The haters are out in full in full force, but of you score the fight round by round you will come up with the right winner. Zhang showed good defense and power, and fought an off focus Hrgovic who didn't show up for any pre-fight stuff. Something was bothering him. Maybe Zhang's southpaw style. The knock down was a cuffing blow behind the head / combination push down. Not chin or balance related.

I felt it could have gone either way, but now all power shots are equal, and one thing is for sure, Zhang's power shots were harder and more effective than Hrgovic's. So, that could be an argument, especially as the punch stats were not massively wide in Hrgovic's favour. Nash out.

[HeadShots]

That is 100% not true.

100% true.

he dropped his arms and walked away. this is not a fighter's instinct. he was no longer protecting himself.

[War Room]

100% true.

he dropped his arms and walked away. this is not a fighter's instinct. he was no longer protecting himself.

Doesn't make it a symptom of a concussion.

[HeadShots]

Doesn't make it a symptom of a concussion.

it shows damage.


anyone with a brain can see Zhang was landing the harder, more damaging blows. it is irrefutable. the only argument HRG crowd have is punchstats by a smidge. Zhang was bullying Hrg around.

[War Room]

it shows damage.


anyone with a brain can see Zhang was landing the harder, more damaging blows. it is irrefutable. the only argument HRG crowd have is punchstats by a smidge. Zhang was bullying Hrg around.

This is not a symptom any fighter has exhibited before that I've seen and saying it shows a symptomatic concussion just feels false.

What we do know for a fact is the "power" didn't effect his fight game much though. Taking power shots doesn't make you comeback right after like Hrgovic was fighting. When you take hard shots, the impact of power makes you reset, stop your attacks, revaluate, become gun-shy, pull the trigger differently, etc...we've seen this tousands of times over the decades. None of these things happened with Hrgovic. Hrgovic literally walked away after some shots, doesn't mean he has a concussion.

Sometimes shots look like gangbusters, but they're not even g****busters. Now that Zhang is fighting upper-echelon fighters, that power isn't as powerful as it was against those 2-bit bums he's been fighting his entire career. You'll see as Zhang fights more top tier fighters, that power won't have the same effect.

[PBR Streetgang]

As I was watching the last 4-5 rounds, as the ring was wetter and wetter, I felt it effected Zhang more. I felt it stopped him loading up with more big swings sometimes as his balance wasn't there anymore. I'd hate to fight in a slippy ring, surely more could have been done in between rounds? Nash out.

That's good point actually. In addition to the one slip that ended with Zhang doing a near split, he lost his footing at least several other time and was noting it to the ref. He seemed to move away from the center of the ring sometimes for no other reason than to avoid the slippery logo.

As I was watching that fight, I wondered why there haven't been any developments in the use of anti-slip logos for boxing rings. I can't imagine it would be terrible hard to incorporate some grit into it.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Right so this was Hrgovic's test. He faced a big puncher, and he came through it.

Also he showed a decent level of aggression.

It was aggression and lack of offensive determination, that lost Joshua his rematch vs Usyk.

Hrgovic seems like a good solid fighter, but I have not witnessed anything super elite from him.

Solid fighter.

[Nash out]

That's good point actually. In addition to the one slip that ended with Zhang doing a near split, he lost his footing at least several other time and was noting it to the ref. He seemed to move away from the center of the ring sometimes for no other reason than to avoid the slippery logo.

As I was watching that fight, I wondered why there haven't been any developments in the use of anti-slip logos for boxing rings. I can't imagine it would be terrible hard to incorporate some grit into it.

Yeah, that's what I was noticing too. He was moving into areas of the ring that he was less effective in, purely to avoid slipping. Must have been very frustrating for him. Hrgovic has much better balance than Zhang, so whilst not ideal for him either, it would have been less of a problem, as I felt it completely affected Zhang's gameplan, positioning, and mindset. I could see he was frustrated with it.

To me, a rematch makes sense. Hrgovic, whilst he got the win, provided more questions than answers, and Zhang clearly became less effective, massively in part, due to the surface. You'd think that after this they will have to consider options for that. I mean, this was one fight before Usyk vs Joshua 2. Imagine that chaos in a fight on that level. Nash out.

[Boxfan83]

The China Man won but who cares? The Chinese stay ripping off the world.

[hugh grant]

GGG landed more jabs than Nelo, but Nelo landed power punches which supposedly made the difference? But if Flip landed more power punches than zhang i guess Flip deserved win.