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  • OldTerry
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    #31
    Originally posted by QballLobo
    History says once a limited fighter with big power gets that chin cracked they are never the same.
    That aura of invincibility is gone and they aren’t as decisive looking for that one punch.
    There are fights out there for him but I think he gets caught slipping again sooner rather than later.
    I hope you are wrong, but what you say is the same thing I have observed in fighters. Of course, this doesn't only apply to Wilder but to Joshua as well. That makes a Wilder Joshua fight even more interesting.

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    • Blackstarr
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      #32
      Originally posted by jockpunk

      He isn’t beating usyk. Horrible matchup for him.
      Agreed..against Usyk, he would be well and truly embarrassed and made to look horribly amateurish. It would be death by a thousand cuts.

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        #33
        Originally posted by champion4ever

        Actually, I think that Wilder has the potential of beating them both; Especially Usyk. Now, as far as Tyson Fury is concerned; He came very close to doing it twice.

        Once in their first bout and secondly in their last bout. He dropped Fury for a total of four times in each of those bouts but for whatever reason he failed to put him away.
        I don't think Wilder has a chance in hell against Usyk every southpaw he's faced he's took multiple rounds to get to grips and been completely outfoxed and boxed including by Ortiz who he'd been in with twice and still looked like a fish out of water, by time he figures Usyk out it's over.

        As for him not finishing Fury it's quite frankly because his power is hugely overrated, if Cunningham and Pajkic can put him over and have him quite badly hurt then the "biggest puncher in history" should've flatlined him, especially given they're both non punchers.

        And we've got to be cognisant of what he's got left in the tank more importantly.

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          #34
          Originally posted by jockpunk

          He isn’t beating usyk. Horrible matchup for him.
          I disagree. This is the heavyweight division and all it takes is for one punch to put your opponent away. Usyk is a lot heavier and slower now. He can't dance for twelve rounds against Deontay without tasting that slammer from Alabama punch. He can run but he can't hide.
          Last edited by champion4ever; 08-18-2022, 01:03 PM.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Blackstarr

            You don’t think that at 37 years old, with nearly a year out of the ring following two consecutive knockout defeats, he might not be the same fighter?

            All this talk about him being 2nd/3rd/4th best is all pointless. He needs to prove he’s still got it to be in title contention, and coming back against Helenius doesn’t cut it. And separate point, but the WBC is 100% corrupt in the way they’ve given him such a ridiculously easy route back.
            I agree. We don't know what residual effects or any lasting and permanent physical damage that the Fury trilogy bout may have caused him. However, with that being said; The Robert Helenius fight is just a tune up. If or when he defeats him he'll probably face the winner of the Ruiz/Ortiz fight next.

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              #36
              Originally posted by ultravividscene

              Wow, non title fights against non cash cows must be paying really well these days
              What Wilder is implying about his finances is that he has not wasted his earnings from boxing but has invested them wisely. I imagine he has a rather large income streamed based on the earnings of his investments. This means that he doesn't need to fight in order to live well. It also suggests that his returning to the ring is based on the desire to be well thought of. It may be paradoxical, but Wilder will not cheapen his perception of his greatness by accepting small purses, even though the money is secondary.

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                #37
                Originally posted by jockpunk
                He can spend the next few years making entertaining fights against decent but not great heavyweights. I won't buy them, but nothing really wrong with it if people are entertained. Arturo gatti lost a lot of fights as well.

                I doubt he would ever fight usyk, but it would be fascinating to see if he could land even a single punch against him. I kind of doubt it.
                I pick wilder over any of the heavyweights other than Fury and Usyk (this includes Joshua). My opinion is that Usyk would stop Wilder using his bewildering skills to afflict a lot of damage while at the same time escaping Wilder's punches.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Boro

                  I don't think Wilder has a chance in hell against Usyk every southpaw he's faced he's took multiple rounds to get to grips and been completely outfoxed and boxed including by Ortiz who he'd been in with twice and still looked like a fish out of water, by time he figures Usyk out it's over.

                  As for him not finishing Fury it's quite frankly because his power is hugely overrated, if Cunningham and Pajkic can put him over and have him quite badly hurt then the "biggest puncher in history" should've flatlined him, especially given they're both non punchers.

                  And we've got to be cognisant of what he's got left in the tank more importantly.
                  My how you are selling Deontay Wilder so short? Don't many boxing fans believe that Dereck Chisora has already defeated Oleksandr Usyk? So what do you think that a healthy Deontay Wilder would do to him? A healthy Deontay Wilder defeats every single and active heavyweight in the division.

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                    #39
                    Wilder is a fraud who was installed as a fake hwt contender with a rigged record by two guys who needed a fake star to sell - haymon and finkel. He's a fraud pretender who knows he is protected.

                    The defining moment of this fraud's career is when he ducked $120m to fight Joshua for all the belts (and fought breazeale for peanuts instead). That decision was made by haymon and finkel who know wilder is a bum.

                    If this fraud was truly great he would have DOVE at the chance to dare to be great for $120m vs AJ. But he ran for cover and fought another pbc hired patsy breazeale.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by champion4ever
                      Usyk is too small for Wilder. He can't outmuscle or manhandle him like Fury did. All he could do is run and box which plays right into Wilder's hands because inevitably that right hand will find Oleksandr's chin and put him away. Whether it be the fourth or the eleventh round. Usyk can run but he can't hide.
                      Wilder is longer than Usyk for sure, but larger he isn't. Punching power is definitely in Wilder's favor, but his punching power is only there when delivered from range. This is why Usyk wins this matchup as his skills would take away Wilder's range as he uses adept infighting to inflict damage on Wilder. You may see it differently, but that is how I see it.

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