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  • REDEEMER
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    #11
    “I’m in the business of giving fans great fights.”

    This hasn’t really happened and he openly admits here that the PBC guys sticking to fighting each other which is why his resume is paper thin .

    He hasn’t giving fans great fights ,his fights have been carefully selected and mismatches on paper besides the Ortiz fight the first one and Fury .

    Helenius doesn’t even count so after that he’s got an opportunity to give fans the fights they want but he’s already hinting at Ortiz 3 if he wins himself .

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    • jackblack008
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      #12
      So in the last fight there were only a overall 20 punch difference between Joshua and Usyk. and Usyk won 2 rounds more than Joshua.

      Joshua has brought lot of changes to his camp (Robert Garcia) and has a longer camp as compared to Usyk.

      I may sound like an idiot but am going with Joshua to win this.
      Last edited by jackblack008; 08-18-2022, 09:36 AM.

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      • mromano
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        #13
        Tyson Fury prays Joshua wins this so he can come out of retirement (again) and have the biggest fight in history in the UK.

        My prediction is that Joshua will be more aggressive, but still come up short. Usyk def Joshua UD

        As far as Ruiz-Ortiz, I think it could go either way. It would not surprise me if either guy stopped the other. However, I am going to go with Ruiz by decision.

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        • TheOneAboveAll
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          #14
          Fury seems to have beaten some sweetness into Deontay.

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            #15
            Originally posted by jackblack008
            So in the last fight there were only a overall 20 punch difference between Joshua and Usyk. and Usyk won 2 rounds more than Joshua.

            Joshua has brought lot of changes to his camp (Robert Garcia) and has a longer camp as compared to Usyk.

            I may sound like an idiot but am going with Joshua to win this.
            Not idiotic.

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              It's the same for any of the guys in the [PBC] stable,” he said. “If you're in this business to be great and make money, then we all have to fight each other. That's just the bottom line. I’m in the business of giving fans great fights.”
              We will see if this is just empty words, but he blessed Ortiz with a fight when nobody wanted the smoke.

              Another undefeated Cuban boogeyman in Frank Sanchez could get the opportunity and both are highly ranked by the WBC too.

              Because I expect Ruiz to lose and the Ortiz trilogy makes no business sense for PBC, this may actually happen.

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              • chicken-
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                #17
                Originally posted by REDEEMER
                “I’m in the business of giving fans great fights.”

                This hasn’t really happened and he openly admits here that the PBC guys sticking to fighting each other which is why his resume is paper thin .

                He hasn’t giving fans great fights ,his fights have been carefully selected and mismatches on paper besides the Ortiz fight the first one and Fury .

                Helenius doesn’t even count so after that he’s got an opportunity to give fans the fights they want but he’s already hinting at Ortiz 3 if he wins himself .
                So him fighting a non PBC fighter 3x in a row, who happens to be the best fighter in the division isn't giving us great fights? Fury will absolutely destroy Joshua and make him quit whereas Wilder will fight until he's forced to stop. Joshua is a bum, he says nicer things on camera but as far as fighting goes, he's the 4th best. Helenius is a dangerous comeback fight for him, although I think Helenius is too slow to avoid getting KO'd by Wilder. Who else is there for him to fight that isn't a PBC fighter besides Joshua or Whyte? Both of those fights are easy KOs for Wilder but they are harder to make and he knows it as well as all of us.
                Last edited by chicken-; 08-18-2022, 10:15 AM.

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                  #18
                  Wilder a bitter b_t_hhhhhh! Who cares what his no talent having ass think!

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by chicken-

                    So him fighting a non PBC fighter 3x in a row, who happens to be the best fighter in the division isn't giving us great fights? Fury will absolutely destroy Joshua and make him quit whereas Wilder will fight until he's forced to stop. Joshua is a bum, he says nicer things on camera but as far as fighting goes, he's the 4th best. Helenius is a dangerous comeback fight for him, although I think Helenius is too slow to avoid getting KO'd by Wilder. Who else is there for him to fight that isn't a PBC fighter besides Joshua or Whyte? Both of those fights are easy KOs for Wilder but they are harder to make and he knows it as well as all of us.
                    As I stated Fury was only one of the two fights he had worth anything for the fans .

                    Him fighting someone 3 times in a row most didn’t want to see isn’t supporting your argument,.

                    Chisora should have beat Helenius but when it was mentioned Chisora wanted the fight after a Pulev win you guys mocked that fight . Helenius is just another PBC fighter that stylistically has little chance against him it’s a fight the casual fan will not even notice and they will assume Wilder is taking soft fights now .


                    Joyce ,Hrgovic ,DDD, Mahkmudov, Sanchez , Ruiz , Wallin ,Usyk, Parker these are all future possibilities ,Whyte would arguably be Wilders best win so I have no idea what your trying do here it isn’t going to work because if Wilder avoids the harder fights now he’ll get slammed for it this time around .

                    If A.J is a bum but 4th best according to you that doesn’t make sense either .
                    Last edited by REDEEMER; 08-18-2022, 10:53 AM.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by byfbnz
                      looking forward to ortiz ruiz fight more than joshua usyk. ortiz/ruiz are sharpshooting sluggers with skills. ortiz might have slowed down a lot though for this fight. hope not. i got it 50/50
                      yeah me too , ortiz and ruiz are extremely skilled and are fighting to discover who is 8th best heavyweight in the division whilst the the other 2 are just journeymen

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